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    Re: Another B&W

    As I see Shadowman has asked I would suggest you horizontally flip the image so the dark areas are on the right and holding the eye within the image rather than wanting to dash off as the clouds encourage Nandakumar. All the other comments remain relevant with the final touch of tonal balance and confinement.

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    Thank you very much Dave, I'm happy with the clouds too :-)

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    Great work Binnur. Those clouds are amazing and add the finishing touch to a very good image.

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    Thank you Isabel, Grahame and John(jcuknz) for looking and commenting. I have been reading about B&W photography lately and I can assure you that B&W photography is very different from color photography. So, I can understand that you might find the clouds tiring . I have no problem with the clouds because I like dramatic scenes and I have seen a lot of B&W images like this in the books /on the internet recently and mine is not an extraordinary one comparing to those images.

    Grahame , the photo was taken at sunset time.

    John( Jcuknz), Nandakumar says the clouds are rushing to the 'horizon' not 'out of the frame' and I don't think anything is leading my eyes out of the frame. The rocks and the clouds seem to balance each other well. So, I don't think flipping the image would have a big impact on the composition , but I can give it a go later to see how it works.

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    John, I explained my reasons for not flipping the image in post #23, but I will give it a go to see how it works later. I usually prefer not to flip a part of an image or the whole image unless something is very disturbing or unbalanced in the composition, but eveything looks balanced well in the current composition, that's why I'm not very keen on the suggestion

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    No I wouldn't change it, just wondering if it would lose its impact if the cloud formation were reversed, making the image more symmetrical in the way of patterns; the smooth sky on the left and the near smooth water, etc. I think this precise grouping of natural elements was mystically formed for a deserving eye.

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    Re: Another B&W

    Nice image Binnur, the contrast in the sky does seem a little bit harsh to me.

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    Thanks for looking and commenting Matt. B&W world is totaly different from the color world. It is possible to edit an image in many different ways by playing with tones and contrast which you can't do as much in a color image. I think my taste goes for dramatic scenes and/or high key images in B&W for the time being, not for the traditional ones.But, I have to tell you that what I do is all exploration about photography. I think I will stick to a style which I feel myself close to in time, I'm just wondering around

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    Good work, Binnur. You have a dramatic sky which you showed off well with the choice of location. And then topped it off with very good processing. Keep it up.

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    Thanks for the encouraging comment Greg


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    Good work, Binnur. You have a dramatic sky which you showed off well with the choice of location. And then topped it off with very good processing. Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    It is possible to edit an image in many different ways by playing with tones and contrast which you can't do as much in a color image.
    When I made a statement reflecting a similar sentiment, I remember that Shane disagreed. That was quite awhile ago and I still feel the same way. I can't properly articulate my thinking but I do still believe it to be true at least for me.
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    Re: Another B&W

    Very nice Binnur, I love it

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    I certainly agree with you Mike . Without different ways, life and photography would be very boring


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    When I made a statement reflecting a similar sentiment, I remember that Shane disagreed. That was quite awhile ago and I still feel the same way. I can't properly articulate my thinking but I do still believe it to be true at least for me.

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    Thank you very much David. I'm glad to see you posting again

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    Very nice Binnur, I love it

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    Re: Another B&W

    +1 to Grahame. I usually find myself asking:what was the original colour version like? Only then could I decide if I liked the B & W version.

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    Binnur,

    I assume you realize that this bold style of monochrome images is very similar to your typical style of making color images even though the boldness has different characteristics. I've always appreciated your post-processing skills with the color versions despite that they don't produce a style I would use. Very selfishly speaking, I could look forever at black-and-white photos made in this style, which works for me really well.

    Interestingly, I seem to be able to enjoy a much wider range of monochrome styles than color styles. As an example, perhaps Donald's typical style of making monochromes is on the opposite end of the range of styles from this one. Yet I enjoy his style as much as the style you used to make this exceptionally nice image.
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    Thanks for commenting John. Color and B&W are two very different but basic concepts in photography. That's why I usually prefer not to make comparisons between them


    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRostron View Post
    +1 to Grahame. I usually find myself asking:what was the original colour version like? Only then could I decide if I liked the B & W version.

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    Mike, the books I have read about B&W photography say that, B&W images are more open to different interpretations . I think that's why you like different styles in B&W

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    Binnur,

    I assume you realize that this bold style of monochrome images is very similar to your typical style of making color images even though the boldness has different characteristics. I've always appreciated your post-processing skills with the color versions despite that they don't produce a style I would use. Very selfishly speaking, I could look forever at black-and-white photos made in this style, which works for me really well.

    Interestingly, I seem to be able to enjoy a much wider range of monochrome styles than color styles. As an example, perhaps Donald's typical style of making monochromes is on the opposite end of the range of styles from this one. Yet I enjoy his style as much as the style you used to make this exceptionally nice image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Mike, the books I have read about B&W photography say that, B&W images are more open to different interpretations .
    I actually wonder if that doesn't reflect the bias of the authors (I have the same bias) rather than the facts. I can't imagine how anyone could prove that B&W images are more open to different interpretations.

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    I think their reason for saying so is that 'the important thing in a B&W image is tones instead of colors and that gives flexibility for different interperations. You can make 2 totaly different interpretations with a black sky and a lighter one in B&W and they might both look good , but it is not easy to do the same thing in a color image. A sunset shot in color is a sunset shot in color. You can play with colors according to your taste but for instance, you can't change the brightness/darkness so much . I think authors are trying to say something like this in their books.They also say B&W images are more open to artistic edits because they are more open to different interpretations. But I also agree with you that it might be their bias



    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    I actually wonder if that doesn't reflect the bias of the authors (I have the same bias) rather than the facts. I can't imagine how anyone could prove that B&W images are more open to different interpretations.

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