The Creative Cloud Saga Continues

[xpatUSA]

Just in case you missed the 10 bucks a month offer, guess what . . !!

http://petapixel.com/2014/02/03/adob...gram-everyone/

Not that I'm a great lover of anything Adobe, but somebody loves them, I'm sure

[Mike Buckley]

I think there is a good chance we'll almost always be able to get this offer and that the offer will even become less expensive over long periods of time.

[Nancy Moran G]

I saw this thread pop up as soon as it posted. I thought, oh boy, this will be a long thread!
So, obviously I am surprised at the lack of comments. I am a newbie though...

I have no pp other than Elelments 11 as of 2 months ago. It does seem ALOT of people use LR in addition to PSE and others. I was about to order LR the night before this offer came up. So if I (can?) order it and pay $10 month for a year subscription, and I cancel, do I get to keep using LR et all, but don't get upgrades? Or does the whole access go away?

I want to be able to do pp, but also want to get into Time Lapse and think LR with some kind of plug in will let me do that ?
I also will want to stack photos, ie; stars, but I think that is a whole different product..

I will contact Adobe with questions but being so new, I wanted alittle insight from The Forum.
Thank you,
Nancy

[Mike Buckley]

If you cancel your subscription, you will still be able to use your Elements 11 because you purchased a license that includes a perpetual term. However, you will no longer be able to use Lightroom or Photoshop CC.

[Nancy Moran G]

Thank you Mike. I ran into someone a week ago who said I should get the subscription at 'just' $50 month! He thought it was a deal! Did I hear him wrong?
Nancy

[Kris V]

Thank you Mike. I ran into someone a week ago who said I should get the subscription at 'just' $50 month! He thought it was a deal! Did I hear him wrong?
Nancy

I believe this person was talking about the whole package deal of Adobe products, including Audition, Premiere, InDesign, Illustrator and probably others.
I got the same offer a while back, but passed. For now, CS6 is sufficient for my needs.

[Macmahon]

Thank you Mike. I ran into someone a week ago who said I should get the subscription at 'just' $50 month! He thought it was a deal! Did I hear him wrong?
Nancy

Hi Nancy

At this point in time, Lightroom continues to be available as a standalone 'perpetual license' for a one-off price. You don't have to go the subscription way. Adobe hasn't even hinted that Lightroom will be subjected to the subscription-only model.

If you did choose the $10 monthly subscription thingy, you'd get Photoshop as well, for as long as you pay the monthly subscription - you'd get a year-and-a-bit's use of LR and PS for the price of LR standalone. If you chose to opt out at some point, your Lightroom catalog would still be usable by a standalone version of Lightroom.

The things to consider at opt-out time would be:
you'd lose access to Photoshop. How much would that matter to you? and
you'll have to purchase the latest version of Lightroom.

FWIW I agree with you. I'd need to be making a lot of $$ from photography (I'm not!) to think that the CC suite was worth only $50 per month.

FWIW further, I've used LR since it first came out and upgraded every time. If I was convinced the subscription price would stay at $10/month it would make sense to me to take it up and get PS into the bargain. However, I'm a suspicious so-and-so, and I've never missed PS in the past, so I think I'm going to pass on it.

Cheers

Tim

[Mike Buckley]

The things to consider at opt-out time would be:...you'll have to purchase the latest version of Lightroom.

That's true only if you want to continue using Lightroom and its catalog(s). If you export your image files to a format such as DNG that can be edited by other programs while also retaining your edit steps, you won't need Lightroom if it no longer fits your needs.

[dan marchant]

That's true only if you want to continue using Lightroom and its catalog(s). If you export your image files to a format such as DNG that can be edited by other programs while also retaining your edit steps, you won't need Lightroom if it no longer fits your needs.

I may be wrong but I believe that, while other programs will be able to read and edit DNG files, they will not be able to read Lightroom's specific edits, so you would have a bunch of RAW files with no edits. I think the only way to retain the edits (but not the steps by which you achieved an edit) would be to export as a TIFF.

[Colin Southern]

I think there is a good chance we'll almost always be able to get this offer and that the offer will even become less expensive over long periods of time.

I see it as a win/win; at the moment they're still offering it - and people are still accepting it. Perhaps a bit like certain stores that always have a "sale for this" and a "sale for that".

[Colin Southern]

I may be wrong but I believe that, while other programs will be able to read and edit DNG files, they will not be able to read Lightroom's specific edits, so you would have a bunch of RAW files with no edits. I think the only way to retain the edits (but not the steps by which you achieved an edit) would be to export as a TIFF.

It would be interesting for someone to post a DNG file with LR edits and for others to see what they could read from it in the likes of ACR (PS) and ACR (PSE). I'm guessing that the Photoshop ACR version would handle everything, but not sure about the cut-down PSE version.

[Mike Buckley]

I read an old CNET article explaining that CS6 and the Lightroom 4 beta were using the same DNG version, which leads me to infer that Lightroom DNG files can be read by CS. There was no mention of Photoshop Elements in the article.

[dan marchant]

I read an old CNET article explaining that CS6 and the Lightroom 4 beta were using the same DNG version, which leads me to infer that Lightroom DNG files can be read by CS. There was no mention of Photoshop Elements in the article.

I would expect compatible versions of LR and Photoshop's ACR to be able to read each others edits. However I don't how PSE would fare given that it has a crippled version of ACR.

[Dave Humphries]

I would expect compatible versions of LR and Photoshop's ACR to be able to read each others edits. However I don't how PSE would fare given that it has a crippled version of ACR.

I agree, I even wonder if it might support the LR edits too, just not allow you to alter them further.

I base this theory (it is nothing more than that) on the assumption that sometimes it is just the user interface that is missing from the software code of cut-down apps (like Elements), the actual image processing 'engine' might be the same.

[Colin Southern]

I agree, I even wonder if it might support the LR edits too, just not allow you to alter them further.

I base this theory (it is nothing more than that) on the assumption that sometimes it is just the user interface that is missing from the software code of cut-down apps (like Elements), the actual image processing 'engine' might be the same.

Why don't we just test it?

[jcuknz]

I have already been offered it several times and each time it is consigned to my spam rubbish box ... they must be desparate making the offer.