Storm Approaching

[Davejl]

I wish that the shot didn't include the modern metal barrier at right. Seems a bit hard to clone out and cropping out would get rid of a chunk of the cloud or the church spire, both of which I want in the photo. Not sure whether to get rid of the white dots (seagulls).

[Shadowman]

I wish that the shot didn't include the modern metal barrier at right. Seems a bit hard to clone out and cropping out would get rid of a chunk of the cloud or the church spire, both of which I want in the photo. Not sure whether to get did of the white dots (seagulls).

Looks good to me, you might be directing viewers attention to areas they might have normally ignored.

[NorthernFocus]

The railing isn't all that noticeable IMO. Your choice of color tint gives me more of the impression of rising smoke than of a stormy sky. That capstan must have come from a fair sized vessel.

[Davejl]

Thanks. Maybe I should have kept quiet about the barrier!

Dave

[Davejl]

Thanks.

I chose the tint because this is Whitby, so I was thinking of the wonderful Frank Meadow Sutcliffe photos taken here, which are sepia. I take your point about the smoke and have to agree. I did a B+W of a different shot, which has an amazing cloud, but that shot has a modern lifeboat in it. In the present shot, I was struck by the fact that the things in this view (except the metal barrier!) look old, so I went for an "old" look.

Dave

p.s. I am almost certain that the capstan here is not from a ship but is a harbour fitting, originally used to winch ships in.

[Geoff F]

Looks fine to me. I would prefer it without the railing but that isn't really a serious problem.

Personally, I usually clone out distant gulls if they can't easily be identified as birds.

[Dave Humphries]

Hi Dave,

I agree about the metal railing/barrier on right - I would attempt it, although I would have to remove all the "SLOW" sign on harbour wall.

I also - being pernickity only because I like the shot so much, I want it to be perfect - found the two sloping chunks of timber "unfortunately positioned". They 'bridge' the foreground to the more distant bit of wharf. Are they the top of a substantial timber ladder used to access the mud at low tide? Or perhaps just 'rails' to haul barrels up from a boat?

With regard to the seagull white dots - yes, I think I would remove them, if mine.

If you down size it to 1400 x 906 px in PS, then sharpened it with USM at 100% Amount, 0.3 px Radius and 0 Threshold, it would really look stunning.
It is currently softer than it could be because it was uploaded to TinyPic 'too big' and they have downsized it (without sharpening) to 1599 x 1035 px.

Hope those points are helpful, Dave

[Davejl]

Thanks. I must say that I usually clone out flying insects from shots, because they often look like muck on the lens.

[Davejl]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the tips and the info re upload/sharpening. I had not in fact noticed the "slow" sign! I currently use old reading glasses for seeing my laptop and I think the laptop is slowly creeping away from me. My next optician's appt. is upcoming! I think I'll have a go at removing the seagulls and barrier and sign. I actually don't dislike the wooden rails, which I'm pretty sure belong to a ladder. They are certainly old and I think that they suggest to me that there is a sizeable drop at this point, though I fully respect your view.

Cheers,

Dave

[IzzieK]

Very nice scene here Dave...I am with Dan about the cloud. It looks more like smoke as soon as I see it but thought it was because of the mono conversion that it did not stand out as a cloud, cloud instead.

[Davejl]

Hi Izzie,

Thanks. The cloud I think looks somewhat like smoke in the colour version, though I can see that I've probably over-darkened it.
It was a very dull wet day and the cloud preceded a massive deluge with thunder (during which I was indoors eating some of Whitby's famous fish and chips) clearing to a beautiful evening.

[joebranko]

Very nice scene Dave. I love sepia treatments, and agree with your choice. However the green tint in this treatment seems too strong to my liking. Don't know if that is even adjustable ? Anyway that's just my personal preference so please disregard if you don't agree.

[Davejl]

Hi Joe,

Thanks. As regards the green tint, do you mean that the colour looks green to you? It doesn't look green to me, but my monitor isn't calibrated at all (though my home printed version doesn't look green either). Mind you, given the discussions I sometimes have with family about what colour various flowers in the garden are, maybe I'm colourblind a bit! It would be fairly easy to alter the tone I think, because I use Silver Efex which gives a great deal of choice for toning, too much probably, because I can spend hours mucking around with it!

Dave

[joebranko]

It does look a bit green to me but I am looking at it on my Nexus tablet which is obviously not calibrated so please forgive the comment if it is incorrect.

[IzzieK]

No it does not have a green tint at all in my calibrated monitor, that is. I like the sepia treatment, but it did not quite capture the clouds in the colour version. I quite like the colour version too.

[Dave Humphries]

Hi Dave,

As regards the green tint, do you mean that the colour looks green to you?

To clarify: I think Joe's 'green tint' comment applies to the monochrome (not 'the colour').

When I first saw the thread, I must admit, I remember thinking that isn't the shade of 'sepia' I'd have chosen, it feels a bit too 'bright yellow' to me, but the more I view it, I've become used to it now and it seems OK - I guess it must be growing on me

[joebranko]

Hi Dave,



To clarify: I think Joe's 'green tint' comment applies to the monochrome

Yes it was the sepia which I thought was greenish. But I can also call it yellowish. But this is personal taste and it isn't right or wrong.

[Davejl]

Thanks to all for the clarification. I must say that I don't greatly like the Silver Efex "out of the tin" sepias, and I have to agree that it is probably a bit too yellow, though I have got used to the present tint. I must photograph one of the Sutcliffe prints (copies!) I've got and then experiment with trying to re-create the sepia tint (using the eye dropper tool?). In about 6 months time, having cloned, tinted etc, I might be ready to re-post it! On the other hand, Izzie's comment has made me look anew at the colour version and it has grown on me. I certainly like the deep red (maroon/brown?) of the capstan and feel that it has somethng missing from the mono, and the cloud is probably better. The metal barrier, on the other hand......

Cheers,

Dave

[John 2]

Nice shot of one of my favourite places - if only for the fish and chips. I think I prefer the mono version but perhaps with a little less emphasis on the dark cloud. The metal barrier doesn't bother me and the Frank Meadow Sutcliffe treatment works well but that's what I always associate Whitby with.

................. I must say that I don't greatly like the Silver Efex "out of the tin" sepias, and I have to agree that it is probably a bit too yellow, though I have got used to the present tint. I must photograph one of the Sutcliffe prints (copies!) I've got and then experiment with trying to re-create the sepia tint (using the eye dropper tool?). In about 6 months time, having cloned, tinted etc, .....................................
Dave

If you want to pull back the (slightly) greenish look to the sepia version, just de saturate the yellow channel slightly (if you can- don't know what software you are using) and if you want to warm the resulting shot up slightly, increase the bias towards red or magenta using your colour balance tools.

[IzzieK]

Please leave the metal barrier alone....it wouldn't had mattered if you did not mention it anyway.
Cheers...