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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Here is the original...without the Unsharp Mask at the end...the clouds are a little bit softer...OK...no such luck yet, still at 12%, so I will try early tomorrow morning...sorry. I'll be back...

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Beautiful capture, over pp or not, Izzie.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by KimC View Post
    One of your nicest shots to date Izzie
    That's the only thing that matters. The other details already mentioned are relatively trivial and easy to fix.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Very good shot Izzie, well done.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAN01 View Post
    Beautiful capture, over pp or not, Izzie.
    Thanks Dean...that was flattering...apreciate your comments.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    That's the only thing that matters. The other details already mentioned are relatively trivial and easy to fix.
    Thanks Mike. I was happy with the original edit straight out of ACR then I decided to use Unsharp Mask after downsizing...I will try to upload the original again...it might work this time around. Thanks for commenting. That was really nice of you.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by dje View Post
    Very good shot Izzie, well done.

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    Thanks Dave for passing by.. I am glad you like it...warts and all! Appreciate your comment...

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Here's the original straight out of ACR...

    Cloud formation...for C&C

    I knew it is going to work at 2:30am!!! Now I can go back to bed!!

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Hard to decide - I like both versions.

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    Hi Isabel, I like the image very much I prefer the first uploaded image but I would reduce the structure a bit. I just want to make a general suggestion about Nik Software. When you use structure sliders in Viveza or SEP2 , the treatment sharpens the image in a way, so I think it is better not to sharpen the image in ACR at the beginning of editing and it is better to apply the unsharp mask for output sharpening less than the usual amount. I usually edit my images as smart objects so that I can reduce the sharperning and/or clarity in ACR if the final image looks too crisp.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Binnur mentioned the potential problems of applying structure or any kind of sharpening to a sky. I never, ever would apply anything of the sort using any software to the plain blue parts of a sky and rarely to clouds for the reasons she explained. Even when I do apply it to clouds, I do it much less than the other parts of the scene. This is especially important when projecting an image on my television and I understand that others have experienced the same issue using a television, though I have no idea why.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Awesome sky and well captured, definitely over-sharpened for me though.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris V View Post
    Hard to decide - I like both versions.
    Thanks for the added comments, Kris...'appreciate it very much.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Hi Isabel, I like the image very much I prefer the first uploaded image but I would reduce the structure a bit. I just want to make a general suggestion about Nik Software. When you use structure sliders in Viveza or SEP2 , the treatment sharpens the image in a way, so I think it is better not to sharpen the image in ACR at the beginning of editing and it is better to apply the unsharp mask for output sharpening less than the usual amount. I usually edit my images as smart objects so that I can reduce the sharperning and/or clarity in ACR if the final image looks too crisp.
    Actually I did use the Structure in Viveza. I should have skipped the sharpening (Clarity) in ACR. My mistake is doing the Unsharp Mask after resizing. Thanks for the tip...I will remember this from now on...'appreciate your comment and suggestions.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    Binnur mentioned the potential problems of applying structure or any kind of sharpening to a sky. I never, ever would apply anything of the sort using any software to the plain blue parts of a sky and rarely to clouds for the reasons she explained. Even when I do apply it to clouds, I do it much less than the other parts of the scene. This is especially important when projecting an image on my television and I understand that others have experienced the same issue using a television, though I have no idea why.
    I came to realize my mistake when I read Binnur's comments. Too many buttons to push...too little brain to get together here... Thank you for commenting. 'Do appreciate it very much...

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel View Post
    Awesome sky and well captured, definitely over-sharpened for me though.
    For me too, Matt but it was too late when I noticed it after I uploaded the darn thing. It won't happen again...Thanks for commenting.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    My mistake is doing the Unsharp Mask after resizing.
    I actually doubt that. Always get all characteristics of the image as you prefer when working with the full-size file. Once you have downsized the file for display on the Internet, it's imperative that you add sharpening. That's correctly explained in the CiC tutorial about sharpening. Many people such as myself add that final step of sharpening to the entire image even though we wouldn't add it to the all areas of the full-size image. That's for two reasons: the ease of doing so and because the potentially negative effects of sharpening the entire image so rarely becomes apparent when displaying such a relative small image.

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Hi Izzie, I missed this image the other day, but what a cracker well done you, thanks for sharing!

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    WOW, this is really really ammmazing...it has a 3D effect too; i feel i can touch the clouds....

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    Re: Cloud formation...for C&C

    Well...too many sharpening steps then, one from ACR, then in Viveza then the last Unsharp Mask...I should have stopped but processing an image is so much fun! Sometimes you do too much, sometimes not enough...

    Thanks for the extra pointers. I appreciate it very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Buckley View Post
    I actually doubt that. Always get all characteristics of the image as you prefer when working with the full-size file. Once you have downsized the file for display on the Internet, it's imperative that you add sharpening. That's correctly explained in the CiC tutorial about sharpening. Many people such as myself add that final step of sharpening to the entire image even though we wouldn't add it to the all areas of the full-size image. That's for two reasons: the ease of doing so and because the potentially negative effects of sharpening the entire image so rarely becomes apparent when displaying such a relative small image.

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