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    Isolation

    I took this image yesterday whilst out 'playing' with my recently self fixed 28-105mm and at the time the scene appealed to me. Unfortunately this was the best angle I could get for conveying the isolation of the house with nothing but sky behind it.

    Having done very basic PP and no cropping I feel it has 'something' but as with many of my diversifications from areas where I feel confident I'm unsure.

    Time of day and lighting were not good but my main purpose of the shots I took were to see how the lens performed with respect to sharpness and colour.

    1/200s, f14, ISO200, 46mm
    Isolation

    For info, RAW through ViewNX with Nikon 'Standard' picture profile, saved in Tiff 16bit, then into PSE for basic PP and CSM sharpening. I found with the images I took with this lens I could not use the Nikon 'Landscape' picture profile as it oversaturated and increased contrast more than when I have used that profile with my 18-200.

    Comments and suggestions welcome as always

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    Re: Isolation

    Very rich colours, Grahame...and sharp too. You can unsaturate it a bit and then crop it on both sides to isolate the house and frame it--from the palm tree at the left and the little tree at the right. Whatever is left of the over extension of the other tree you can just clone that out in PP. Just my opinion...

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    Re: Isolation

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    Very rich colours, Grahame...and sharp too. You can unsaturate it a bit and then crop it on both sides to isolate the house and frame it--from the palm tree at the left and the little tree at the right. Whatever is left of the over extension of the other tree you can just clone that out in PP. Just my opinion...
    Hi Isabel,

    Thanks for commenting. I'm surprised you say very rich colours and also a bit more saturation needed but I'll give it a go. As for cropping I thought about removing some from each side and doing a square crop but thought it would make it look too cramped, but I'll give that a go as well.

    I find bugs and critters so much easier

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    Re: Isolation

    Grahame, unsaturated not more saturation...lesser if you can do it. The shot will not be cramped because your topic is the isolation of the house in the middle. Look at it again (or maybe I should.)

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    Re: Isolation

    Grahame,i'm sure that's a spider on the shack door,i like the colour's and you have managed to keep detail in the sky too,but then what do i know about this type of image,give me a bug anyday

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    Hi Grahame. Nothing wrong with the lens. I would have preferred the base of the palm to be visible but otherwise, I would crop a little from the LHS to lose the highlight in the sky. Saturation is fine for me but a bit more contrast in the sky wouldn't go amiss.

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    Re: Isolation

    a nice green story

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    Re: Isolation

    David, John, Nandakumar

    Thanks for the comments.

    I have taken note of all suggestions and come up with the below crop and a very slight de-saturation. As for the sky I can not push this further but am happy with it as it's a pretty true representation of how it was. On some of the shots I took that day I have merged bracketed exposures with some success but not tried it on this one yet.

    Conclusion, for me this mod has lost the feeling of isolation and space that I thought the image portrayed although to be honest it was a capture for which I was mainly interested in lens performance. What I have learnt is that for this one I recognise what I do or do not like

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    Re: Isolation

    Nice image, has a bit of a fish-eye effect to it.

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    Re: Isolation

    The first is a great image, Grahame. It is clear to me what you wanted to communicate with it. I wonder if the low light for the house itself is holding things back (shadows could be brought up some locally?) - it doesn't seem as "important" as it should be for the subject of the story being told. And I agree with you that the "isolation" sense is substantially reduced in the crop.

    I think this may be a special case of the general case wherein the story is about smallness of the subject in the context of a large scale surrounding. I think this general problem is common (how big should that solitary tree in the big meadow be? How big should that solitary person in the midst of huge dunes be?). I think solving it for your image is tough because of all the different trees competing for attention. I wonder, if for the story you wanted to tell, you could have pulled back even more, dwarfing the house in a field of green and sky. But landscapes giveth, and they taketh away, and that may simply not have been feasible.

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    Re: Isolation

    The first is a great image, Grahame. It is clear to me what you wanted to communicate with it. I wonder if the low light for the house itself is holding things back (shadows could be brought up some locally?) - it doesn't seem as "important" as it should be given that it is the subject of the story being told. And I agree with you that the "isolation" sense is substantially reduced in the crop.

    I think this may be a special case of the general case wherein the story is about smallness of the subject in the context of a large scale surrounding. I think this general problem is common (how big should that solitary tree in the big meadow be? How big should that solitary person in the midst of huge dunes be?). I think solving it for your image is tough because of all the different trees competing for attention. I wonder, if for the story you wanted to tell, you could have pulled back even more, dwarfing the house in a field of green and sky. But landscapes giveth, and they taketh away, and that may simply not have been feasible.

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    Re: Isolation

    I am wrong, Grahame. I really like the first image better and this crop makes it tight and lose the essence of what you were trying to show. I'm sorry.

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    Re: Isolation

    I like the first image very much Grahame

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    Re: Isolation

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Nice image, has a bit of a fish-eye effect to it.
    Thanks John, I see what you mean.

    Grahame

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    Re: Isolation

    Quote Originally Posted by Downrigger View Post
    The first is a great image, Grahame. It is clear to me what you wanted to communicate with it. I wonder if the low light for the house itself is holding things back (shadows could be brought up some locally?) - it doesn't seem as "important" as it should be given that it is the subject of the story being told. And I agree with you that the "isolation" sense is substantially reduced in the crop.

    I think this may be a special case of the general case wherein the story is about smallness of the subject in the context of a large scale surrounding. I think this general problem is common (how big should that solitary tree in the big meadow be? How big should that solitary person in the midst of huge dunes be?). I think solving it for your image is tough because of all the different trees competing for attention. I wonder, if for the story you wanted to tell, you could have pulled back even more, dwarfing the house in a field of green and sky. But landscapes giveth, and they taketh away, and that may simply not have been feasible.
    Mark,

    Thank you for summing things up but as you say you can not always get things exactly as you would prefer. I have lightened the shack to give it a bit more prominence which I believe has helped but will now leave this one as is but retain the knowledge that has been offered and use it in the future.

    Grahame

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    Re: Isolation

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzieK View Post
    I am wrong, Grahame. I really like the first image better and this crop makes it tight and lose the essence of what you were trying to show. I'm sorry.
    Izzie, if we don't try these things we don't know if the results improve things or not. The main thing is to learn and I'm sure struggling with that in this area of trying to photograph the interior of the island without producing endless pictures of just trees with or without sky

    Grahame

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    Re: Isolation

    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    I like the first image very much Grahame
    Thanks Binnur.

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    Re: Isolation

    And the final version, lightening the shack a wee bit to make it more prominent.

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