can we edit peoples photos

[JR1]

In a recent post of a dog in mono an alteration was done by another member, now I am more than happy for my shots to be altered as long as a reason why has been given, is altering peoples shots allowed as some appear not to have asked

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[FrankMi]

In a recent post of a dog in mono an alteration was done by another member, now I am more than happy for my shots to be altered as long as a reason why has been given, is altering peoples shots allowed as some appear not to have asked

Thanks

Hi Jeremy, I have found that not everyone is enamored with having others modify and repost their images. So if it isn't obvious or you don't know the poster well enough, it is best to be polite and ask before doing so and always be ready to remove the modified image if requested to do so.

I want to learn all I can so I have no problem letting anyone alter and repost my images. All I ask is that they tell us what steps they took to make the modifications so that I (and others on the forum) can learn how to make the changes in our own copy of our images.

On the other hand, I will often not fill someone else's posting with all the steps I took to modify their image unless it is clear that the originator wants that information in which case I will gladly provide it.

[Polar01]

The short answer "yes" however some members in their signature line ask not to adjust with out permission. Most members are looking for feed back, so altering an image to show what they mean is easier than a long winded speech. Usually they tell what they did and their thoughts behind the adjustment. If I do make an adjustment and they have not asked for suggestions, I will state that if they the OP do not want the adjusted image I will gladly withdraw the posting.
Hope that is of some help.

Cheers: Allan

[William W]

My take on this is that it is the responsibility of the Member when joining a forum to take the time to make themselves aware of the Terms of Use of that forum.

Accordingly I assume that if a Member posts an image for feedback they would have read the Code of Conduct and will be aware that I might repost their image when giving that feedback or a critique: there has been only one member who was exceptionally unhappy when I did exactly that.

Please see the Forum's Code of Conduct, an extract here:



"What is our Code of Conduct?

This code of conduct is intended to provide members with guidelines to assist them in the promotion of the friendly and enjoyable community that’s developed here over the years. Don’t fret over the details; if your actions are helpful, constructive and respectful of others, then they're usually OK.
. . .

4. Editing. Re-posting edited versions of other member's photos should be clearly aimed at helping the original photographer. Such edits should therefore preferably be accompanied by an explanation of what editing was performed, along with why this is thought to improve the original image. Edits with significant structural alterations/additions to the original (except slight cropping) are discouraged, and may be removed.

. . .


REF: https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/fo...photo_feedback

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In a recent post of a dog in mono an alteration was done by another member, now I am more than happy for my shots to be altered as long as a reason why has been given, is altering peoples shots allowed as some appear not to have asked

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That may very well have been my image that was altered, with a comment of what they did and why. Personally I have no problem with someone taking the time to help me make better pictures.

[Colin Southern]

Generally it's a positive thing, but not always.

I do it quite often (as you'll all know) but with that usually comes a serious responsibility to improve the image. That's a responsibility that I'm happy to carry because - frankly - I know what I'm doing -- and there are others here too who are also more than capable of carrying that responsibility.

It has to be said though that over the years we've also seen some real "hatchet jobs" on other people work.

In summary, I'll conclude by saying two things:

1. We ask people to respect that edits to others work is a responsibility not to be taken lightly. It's a privilege, not a right.

2. If anyone isn't happy with an edit to their work just drop me a PM (or Donald or Dave) and it'll be removed without hesitation and without any further questions being asked.

Having just said all that, horses for courses comes into it. If someone invites input (as in the recent NEF thread) then pretty much anything goes. On the other hand, if that wasn't the intention of the thread then the above much stricter criteria applies.

[rpcrowe]

Often it is more effective to do an edit and then explain the process than it would be to simply explain the process with no example.

I would never state that "THIS IS THE WAY THE IMAGE SHOULD BE EDITED" but, rather "This is what I would do if the image were mine!", offering that as a suggestion...

I will happily remove any image if the OP requests that and I have absolutely no bad feelings if the OP states that he/she likes the original posting better than mine...

[Andrew76]

That may very well have been my image that was altered, with a comment of what they did and why. Personally I have no problem with someone taking the time to help me make better pictures.

Exactly my sentiments. That's why we're here, isn't it? If you're sole purpose of posting is to show what a fantastic photographer you are, then I think it would be up to the individual to make sure it's clear that they don't want anyone to touch their work.

[JR1]

Perfect, there is one forum where members were so anal about their images being altered doing so could mean an immediate ban if Admin didn't like you.

[Donald]

My approach when I feel that posting an edit is appropriate is to say that I think I can illustrating what I mean by showing that in an edit, rather than a very long-winded text that might be difficult to follow or understand without seeing it implemented.

[rpcrowe]

In the days of film and hard copy prints, I had a friend who would make a print of one of his images and show that print around until "someone" would tell him it was a nice shot. He wasn't a good photographer, so it sometimes would take him a lot of showings until he found someone who would pay him a compliment...

Perhaps some posters are just looking for kudos, rather than feedback, when they post their prints.

I have received valuable feedback on many of my images. Often it is about something that I totally missed...

Perhaps if someone were adverse to feedback and/or posting of an edited version of their image, they should state such preferences when they post...

[AB26]

Jeremy,

My take on this is simple: if anybody is prepared to spend their time on editing any of my images I can only appreciate the effort, no matter if it is improved or messed up. I will be learning something form it.

Fact is that CiC is a forum for learning, not a forum for bragging. (Maybe the Mods should consider a section for bragging, where no alternative editing is allowed.)
To be sensitive about an image being edited is pretty much restricting your own learning curve.

It is always better to read carefully and understand how another member feels about an image. Asking permission to edit is simply showing some respect. If any member ask to have an image edited – well?

PS: Some are very sensitive for critique, wonder what they are doing here?

[jcuknz]

I would not dream of altering an image in an album or competition but as Andre says the forums are for discussion [ learning?] and to rework, either perfectly or as a sort of photographic 'sketch' of a persons idea to improve the image. There is another argument often mentioned that one cannot do a 'great' job on a resized and compressed image, and one needs the original camera file if one is going to make an exhibition quality image which is expecting rather a lot unless the offer is made.

[Stagecoach]

I believe it's a very valuable part of learning, certainly to me, to see the options available to enhance an image and have no problem with anyone showing me what could be achieved with mine.