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    long exposure without an ND filter...

    These are from my first long exposure experiment without an ND filter,I don't know if they are acceptable photos,because I made some trials with manuel mode and I tried different apertures and shutter speeds just to understand what is going on in a long exposure shot.



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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Are you using a sturdy tripod, because the shots don't look quite sharp? I assume that these are taken at sunrise or sunset because your white balance is off. There is no metadata with these images to help figure things out.

    On the other hand, if this is the effect that you are trying to achieve, great! Don't forget that the reason you are using hte ND is to cut down the amount of light hitting the sensor, something that you can certainly achieve under normal low-light situations.

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Thank you Manfred,yes my tripod is not very good,I certainly have to buy a better one.These photos were taken at sunset and in fact I wanted to make the water flatter but I didn't have a nd filter and a remote control device to have a longer shot.First one is f 36,30 sec. and the second one is f 14 ,30 sec.After these shots I decided to buy a 10 stop nd,because I loved long exposures..Now I have a 10 stop nd:-)


    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyDiver View Post
    Are you using a sturdy tripod, because the shots don't look quite sharp? I assume that these are taken at sunrise or sunset because your white balance is off. There is no metadata with these images to help figure things out.

    On the other hand, if this is the effect that you are trying to achieve, great! Don't forget that the reason you are using hte ND is to cut down the amount of light hitting the sensor, something that you can certainly achieve under normal low-light situations.

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    With exposures that long; you really have to make sure that your camera does not move. I upgraded my tripod for exactly the same reason. It was good enough for regular shots, but once the expoures ran into more than a few seconds, it was not rigid enough.

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Binnur, you already know where I stand on the colouring issue, so I won't repeat that. My opinion on these images is that they don't seem sharp enough. It's understandable if you are going for a soft image for artistic reasons, but it doesn't seem to work for these particular shots. Also, i would shoot lower to ensure a stronger composition.

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Hi Binnur, exposures this long for water seem too milky to be realistic to me. I keep expecting that if the water is that smooth, it would also be crystal clear and I should be able to see what is under the surface. It is not wrong, simply different from what I would expect.

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Thank you Murat,I have given up playing with colours but these photos were all taken before the comments about colouring .Also I need a better tripod and I have to use a remote controller to take sharper photos.


    Quote Originally Posted by batmura View Post
    Binnur, you already know where I stand on the colouring issue, so I won't repeat that. My opinion on these images is that they don't seem sharp enough. It's understandable if you are going for a soft image for artistic reasons, but it doesn't seem to work for these particular shots. Also, i would shoot lower to ensure a stronger composition.

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    If you can, try to use long exposure on water that's moving; the more the better (eg breaking / surging water is ideal). It'll turn into "mist" with a long exposure, eg

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    Generally, a 10 Stop ND is a PITA to work with; in other situations you can just take multiple shorter exposures are stack them in PP; I think that for this shot I stacked a few dozen of them (it does wonders for the noise level also)

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Thank you Colin,you are not only a good photographer but also a good PS user:-)You have been very helpful as usual.By the way,What does PITA represent for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Southern View Post
    If you can, try to use long exposure on water that's moving; the more the better (eg breaking / surging water is ideal). It'll turn into "mist" with a long exposure, eg

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    Generally, a 10 Stop ND is a PITA to work with; in other situations you can just take multiple shorter exposures are stack them in PP; I think that for this shot I stacked a few dozen of them (it does wonders for the noise level also)

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Thank you Colin,you are not only a good photographer but also a good PS user:-)You have been very helpful as usual.By the way,What does PITA represent for?
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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    :-) Why?

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    Re: long exposure without an ND filter...

    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    :-) Why?
    Difficult to work the composition with them, and too inflexible.

    If you've ever shot with a Singh-Ray Vari-ND (2 to 8 stops attenuation with a twist of the wrist), you'd sell the 10 stop in a heartbeat.

    With a Vari-ND you get both shutterspeed AND aperture control, and can vary the attenuation to recompose easily .. and adjust the attenuation easily as light levels change (as they do rapidly during the golden hour).

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