Spider and moth

[ClaudioG]

Wish it was one getting the other but it isnt so..sorry .. these a rough images..they are evening shots and i used flash with diffuser. Not my greatest shots but maybe someone can help confirm or identify these guys..even though not many South africans. My first is some sort of moth..which i've tried looking up..it could possibly be an emerald moth..or maybe some type of hawk moth. He was on my bathroom door..i rotated image..and when i was done, put him slowly in container..took him outside and put onleaf..safe and sound.. i took my torch with me..and found..i'm guessing..some type of Latrodectus (Black widow) or button Spider here in South Africa...Please correct me if im wrong. i didnt get to close..bit nervous around spiders still

[AB26]

No Claudio, it is not a Black Widow. The Knopiespinnekop (Black Widow) is shiny black with a red mark on the bottom looking like two overlapping triangles.

This one looks pretty close and I would not take a chance either.

Nice shots.

[Wavelength]

Excellent images; i never thought moth to have such defined eyes; it is not compound eyes, unlike in butterflies !!!
Regards

[Dawn1]

Hi Claudio,
I hope this is the right thread you mentioned ?

I am not very good at ID with insects, I am better at ID'ing plants . I found in searching around the web that an adolescent has a "less black" look to it ? see the first link

This link has an image of an adolescent BW.


http://healthyhomegardening.com/Creature.php?pid=197

I also see that there is a Brown Widow Spider. see second link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Br..._underside.jpg.

I also know there are other spiders that look like BW's but are not actually BW's

This link below shows how to ID a BW

http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-a-Black-Widow-Spider

my opinion is , it is an adolescent BW. ? but you will be able to remember the spider size etc from when you photographed it so it is best you decide, as I cannot say for sure.

I hope this helps !

Lovely macros Claudio

Regards
Dawn

[Brownbear]

Hi Claudio,

I like the moth, beautiful detail and focus on the eye, lovely composition with a nice background. A little more DOF would be nice but it is a beautiful image.