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    Thank you very much Dean

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAN01 View Post
    Wonderful shot and conversion, I like the stark white of the building.

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    Brian mentioned the building and I don't think Binnur understood what he was mentioning. Even though the horizon, which is easy to identify on the left side of the image, appears straight, that building is leaning to the left relative to the horizon. I think it's a coincidence that its roof lines are parallel to the raised bit of land it is built on. This doesn't bother me and I sure wouldn't suggest changing the horizon.

    The one issue I forgot to mention is that there is a strong halo where the sky meets the land the building is on. Similar halos appear less strongly on the rock formations in the water. These halos could have been produced when you sharpened for display on the Internet and are probably not in your master file.

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    Thanks Mike, you have simplified my question.

    Sorry Binnur, I forget English is not your first language. Mike and I are asking a similar question about the lighting on the sky/cliff below the villa.

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    Nice shot, Binnur, beautiful sky, good conversion and a nice composition. However, I do have one reservation. I suspect that you have dodged the shadows in the cliff area (hence the halo) and the building. The building looks unnaturally bright to my eye but that may be what you intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James G View Post
    Sorry Binnur, I forget English is not your first language.
    It's so easy to forget that because her command of English is so good.

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    Great scene and fabulous sky Binnur that really looks good in this conversion. One thing that I keep seeing is a slight halo or light area where the darker clouds meet the rising cliff. Is this a result of the editing process?

    By the way I think Brian meant that the building on the cliff top doesn't look level, it looks like it's leaning to the left for some reason.
    Very nice work.

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    This one works for me Binnur and my reasoning is that there's a good balance of textures, the 'detailed gritty' rocks, the 'average' sea and then the 'smooth' clouds. Each of these different textures also have their own clear area within the scene.

    My one concern would be the sharpening, it looks a bit overdone on the hill edge to the sky.

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    Hi Binnur,

    It doesn't work for me. It looks like three separate images melded by layers. The sky looks disconnected from the foreground and sea and the building looks disconnected from both.

    The grittiness of the foreground and the sharp texture of the ocean and cliff-side look at odds with the smoothness of the middle third and upper sky. Ah think the work on the very stark, white building again dissociates it from both the sky and the foreground. It looks like it's been placed as a focal point but in fact distracts.

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    Lovely image Binnur! I love the drama of the clouds.

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    A stunning image Binnur. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tao2 View Post
    Hi Binnur,

    It doesn't work for me. It looks like three separate images melded by layers. The sky looks disconnected from the foreground and sea and the building looks disconnected from both.

    Hi Robert, this shot was taken in late afternoon and the reason why wanted to edit the image is that I thought it might have served my imagination and it did. This is how I see the scene in my mind and we all have our personal choices. Thanks for commenting


    The grittiness of the foreground and the sharp texture of the ocean and cliff-side look at odds with the smoothness of the middle third and upper sky. Ah think the work on the very stark, white building again dissociates it from both the sky and the foreground. It looks like it's been placed as a focal point but in fact distracts.

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    Thank you Mike , James , Brian, John2, Graham, Grahame, Barbara, Rita for looking and commenting.

    As far as I understand from the comments and after looking the uploaded image for the second time, there is really a halo problem in the image above which is not visible in my PSD file at all and is hardly visible in my JPG file when I look at the images in PS CC. Amazingly I can see a halo in the JPG file when I look at the image in Windows too although it is not as strong as the one above . Also John (Shadowman) said the image was very crisp but it doesn't look as crisp in PS CC. I think it is related to the quality of the image software and to the website where we view the images. But if it is so noticeable on the web , I will get back to the image and fix it by adding some blur or cloning. Thanks for letting me know.

    About how the building stands; this is the way it stands and the horizon is levelled. Because I was at the base of the cliff, my shooting angle might have effected the look of the building a bit, but the land which the house stands on leans towards left anyway. I actually like the way it looks in the scene.

    It is right that I brigthened the house intentionally because I closed my eyes before I started editing and I saw a scene like the image above in my mind and I edited the image that way.

    Thanks again for encouraging , criticising and being so friendly

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    Re: B&W

    so i'm taking what i've learned here and say .. i see 2 pictures... the house on the hill and the distant land mass..... cropping them separately looks neat

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    Thanks for looking and commenting Matthew I have other images taken in the same place with only rocks and clouds and they are waiting for me to edit them. I will try to upload one of them soon to make you happy I will be house moving soon , so if I'm a bit late please excuse me


    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewWilliams View Post
    so i'm taking what i've learned here and say .. i see 2 pictures... the house on the hill and the distant land mass..... cropping them separately looks neat

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    it will be my pleasure to wait

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    I love this one Binnur, the sky is amazing and as Dean said above I love the white of the building.

    Good work!

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    Thank you so much Matt

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel View Post
    I love this one Binnur, the sky is amazing and as Dean said above I love the white of the building.

    Good work!

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    Binnur, I don't usually go for B&W conversions, but this one is exceptional.

    Like Brian, I wondered about the building. The horizon is level, but the building looks at an angle. Could this be a result of using a 17mm wide-angle lens?

    John

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    A superb atmospheric monochrome Binnur. Love the threatening clouds and the suggested vulnerability of the house on the headland.

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    Hi John, I'm glad that you liked the image.It is actually a hill going upward towards right and the house stands on it. 17 mm with a crop sensor makes about 27 mm in full frame and I was at a distance when shooting . If it had such a big effect on the perspective my all shots would look weird because I usually shoot with 11-17 mm. It might be an illusion but I actually like how it looks

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRostron View Post
    Binnur, I don't usually go for B&W conversions, but this one is exceptional.

    Like Brian, I wondered about the building. The horizon is level, but the building looks at an angle. Could this be a result of using a 17mm wide-angle lens?

    John

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