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    New Member with question about using on-board flash

    Hiya, I am new to dSLR photography and would really appraciate some advice for making the most of my on board flash whilst I am saving for a speedlight. I would really appreciate tips on using it as a fill in flash in harsh light to reduce the shadows in portraits.
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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    Vicky

    As you can see, I've now copied your introductory post into this section.

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    Hello Vicky

    To get the onboard flash to work as a fill flash you have to get out of auto and program mode - at least that's the way it works on my Nikon D90. In aperture mode on the D90 the flash is automatically set to work as a fill flash. In manual mode you'd have full control. In this mode I usually dial down the flash intensity to between -1 and -2 (1/2 to 1/4 power) and fire away. it is in my opinion important to have a good eposure setting to begin with, so I start by setting a proper "unaided" exposure, and then dial in the fill flash to taste within the limits I mentioned above.

    Others more knowledgeable members will probably chime in in time.

    Good luck

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    One possible concern to be considered when using the onboard flash as fill light outdoors is that some lens hoods will block some of the light from the flash causing a dark oval at the bottom of your frame when shooting in the landscape mode and at one of the sides when shooting in the portrait position. This is just something you need to test by shooting at a blank wall. I don't know all of the lens hoods that are big enough to cause this shadow but the hood for the Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS lens is one of these...

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    One little inexpensive gadget that I have used to help with on-board flash is the Gary Fong Puffer, which is a diffuser that attaches to the hot shoe and covers the pop-up flash to diffuse the light. It certainly isn't a miracle worker, but it improves the overall appearance of the pop-up flash to my eye. Here's a link: http://www.adorama.com/GAPUF.html FWIW.

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    Thank you, i will see if I can find one of these in the UK, I have been trying to use a white piece of paper or a tissue to diffuse the flash but this would be a lot easier.

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    I tend to work in AV for portraits. I will read the maunal to work out how to dial down the intensity of the flash in the Canon 60D is am guessing in need to put the flash in manual mode. (I am working my way through the manual and practising as i go along!). Will using the flash exposure compensation help in the same way?
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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

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    Vicky

    As you can see, I've now copied your introductory post into this section.
    Thank you very much for posting it for me.

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    Quote Originally Posted by vickylou View Post
    Thank you, i will see if I can find one of these in the UK, I have been trying to use a white piece of paper or a tissue to diffuse the flash but this would be a lot easier.
    Hi VickyLou,

    This looks better too

    At Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002ZXU19A

    Quote Originally Posted by vickylou
    I will read the maunal to work out how to dial down the intensity of the flash in the Canon 60D is am guessing in need to put the flash in manual mode. (I am working my way through the manual and practising as i go along!). Will using the flash exposure compensation help in the same way?
    Yes.

    If you are familiar with normal Exposure Compansation (EC), as you'd use in Av mode in daylight, there is a flash equivalent, "FEC" (guess what the F stands for ), it shouldn't be necessary to go to manual, although of course you can if that suits the conditions, or how you like to work, better.
    On your camera body (which I am not familiar with), there is probably a little lightning flash symbol with a +/- beside it, press and hold while adjusting as you would normal EC and it will adjust FEC. Well, that's how it works on a Nikon and I don't suppose Canon 60D is any different.

    Which bit of Surrey are you in? the bit near me? or down south?

    Welcome to the CiC forums from ...

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    Re: New Member with question about using on-board flash

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post
    Hi VickyLou,

    This looks better too

    At Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002ZXU19A



    Yes.

    If you are familiar with normal Exposure Compansation (EC), as you'd use in Av mode in daylight, there is a flash equivalent, "FEC" (guess what the F stands for ), it shouldn't be necessary to go to manual, although of course you can if that suits the conditions, or how you like to work, better.
    On your camera body (which I am not familiar with), there is probably a little lightning flash symbol with a +/- beside it, press and hold while adjusting as you would normal EC and it will adjust FEC. Well, that's how it works on a Nikon and I don't suppose Canon 60D is any different.

    Which bit of Surrey are you in? the bit near me? or down south?

    Welcome to the CiC forums from ...
    Thank you for your help, I worked out how to use the FEC and it does make a difference. I tried to bounce the on board flash off a piece of white card too. I want to make the on board flash as useable as possible until I can afford a speedlite. Slometimes I just need to use it to reduce shadows etc but had not been liking how flat it makes everything and white washed. I am just learning to I expect alot is down to my novice technique.

    I live in Farnham so not far away.

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