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    Took this on my day course - interested in comments as this is the homework for next week

    5dII, 135mm, iso 200, f 5.6, 1/200

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    Oh, she's lovely!

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    Had you any particular criteria or specification set for the homework exercise, or if a matter of you having complete freedom to choose your topic and how you present it; i.e. are you asking us to comment against any particular parameters set for you?

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    The homework is just for a freeform portrait in natural light - we are still beginners

    I took this in the shade against a billboard to get the vertical split

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    Love the eyes! Pity the mouth is pale, because of the comparison to the hair, but its great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentboy View Post
    The homework is just for a freeform portrait in natural light - we are still beginners

    I took this in the shade against a billboard to get the vertical split
    Thanks Brian. Now we know what your task was.

    What's interesting for me is that my planned response has changed as a result of just moving the image so that I did and then didn't, see that vertical split.

    First of all I was looking at the whole image, right up to the top, which included the vertical split. When looking at in this view, my reaction was the hair is beautifully exposed but the face is too bright and needs taken back a bit (I would do this by a very soft bit of burning - but there are many ways of approaching the task). But then .....

    I scrolled down so that the top of the image was just at the point where the vertical split stops and her hair begins. For me, that changed the whole mood/feel of the picture and I no longer felt that the face was too bright.

    Now, as I write, I am still trying to figure out exactly what has happened here in terms of my perception. There is some sort of interplay of tonal interpretation going on here that's telling me that if there is light/mid-tone grey in there at the top right, then that needs to be balanced/complemented by something that's not just dark or bright elsewhere in the image.

    Whereas, take out that mid-tone at the top right and then we can (well, I can) more easily accept a higher key approach across the rest of the image.

    As I say, this is the best sense I'm making of it at the moment. It was certainly an interesting experience coming to this conclusion, because it's not something I've registered before. But, if my thinking is on the right lines, it's been a very useful learning experience for me. I hope it has for you as well.

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    I think that subconciously I was following the style of the 70's where there was a trend to go 50/50 vertically, with the person and the background changing midpoint with the persons face just bridging the gap - in otherwards an asymetrical picture in the vertical plane rather than the more standard diagonal. Just can't place where I have seen it.

    It seems now to be a more 'modern' style to slightly blow out the skin tones to lose detail when a lady approaches a certain age and the skin has lost the freshness of youth. Perhaps like this ? Which is by Rankin in 2009 - as a novice I am just trying out different styles to see if they work for me.

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    The photo is pretty good for me. There is something about the split almost going through her eye that is just slightly distracting to me though. I wonder if the split was just an inch to the left what the image would like?

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    I have to say I do like the slightly blown effect.

    A 5D and a 135! that is a very very nice combination

    Brian, I see you went at f5.6. Did you try shooting with a wide aperture? a 135 used wide looks great. the DoF will get thin but the background will melt if you get some depth behind the subject. I have to admit I like narrow DOF portraits so maybe thats a personal thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihsgod View Post
    I have to say I do like the slightly blown effect.

    A 5D and a 135! that is a very very nice combination

    Brian, I see you went at f5.6. Did you try shooting with a wide aperture? a 135 used wide looks great. the DoF will get thin but the background will melt if you get some depth behind the subject. I have to admit I like narrow DOF portraits so maybe thats a personal thing...

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    I find that getting closeup with the 135 (this was uncropped) needs 5.6 to get both eyes in focus.

    Here is another that I took at F2. Our lecturer is demanding something different from a standard photo - which is why the pp is unusual. This is out of my usual sphere having only come to digital about 18 months ago

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    by Donald :- I scrolled down so that the top of the image was just at the point where the vertical split stops and her hair begins. For me, that changed the whole mood/feel of the picture and I no longer felt that the face was too bright.
    Having read this, I felt the same thing. Then I went back to the picture & covered the white portion (left part) with my hand & the face didn't look over exposed. I think seeing too much of white altogether does that to eyes. Well this may have been said in a technical language.. So sorry if I am repeating something that has already been said..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentboy View Post
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    That's a beauty. I really, really like that. I like the range of tones in it. I think the composition is great. I love how it's presented. And the mood/thoughtfulness you've captured in the young woman is magnificent.

    Do you know her? Has she seen it? What does she think about it?

    I wish I had made that picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    That's a beauty. I really, really like that. I like the range of tones in it. I think the composition is great. I love how it's presented. And the mood/thoughtfulness you've captured in the young woman is magnificent.

    Do you know her? Has she seen it? What does she think about it?

    I wish I had made that picture.
    Thank you for the kind comments. The young lady is on the course with me - so she will see it next week. I am getting it printed on 9x6 and will mount it on A4 mountboard for her (the same with the first picture too). She was posing for others in the class for frontal shots, so I went round the side and waited for the moment. This is uncropped. The 5DII and the 135 get really good IQ - I only have to point and click being on AV.

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