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    Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Hi, going forward on my photography venture I stopped and clicked another shot. Can you please review it and let me know what exactly is missing for it to make it much better?

    Here I have used Harsh light to get some textured shadows, depth and dimension in the face. In processing I havnt done much apart from minor contrast adjustments and WB. She is approx 13 Years of age. She is also a nomad like the previous gal and they do makeup and dress up like that only for the fair.

    Please provide your views and suggestion with composition, frame, crops and processing.

    Thank You

    PS : Please click on the image for lightbox screen view (Highly recommended)

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Nicely captured, interesting use of shadow and pattern.

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Hi Raj I'm not a portrait shooter but I want to say my opinion .I like the image. I would crop it from the LHS and go for a nearly square crop as her scarf competes with her face .

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    Another beautiful shot, Raj. You seem to have a better at the camel fair than I did. I have lots of pictures of camels!

    When I first saw this image my initial concern was all that hair on your subject's forehead, until I realized that these were shadows cast by patterns in the scarf she is holding away from her head. Let me show you two possibilities for a crop and then my thoughts on how to edit. The edits are pretty well identical, other than the crop.

    Edit 1 - using the scarf to frame the model

    Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome



    Edit 2 - A more traditional headshot framing.

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    As for the edits; your exposure was right on; but I did a tiny tweak of the black point and white point. I found that the skin tones looked a bit too warm. I suspect that this might be due to the light coming through the red scarf warming things up, so I cooled things down a bit. I do prefer portraits to be a bit on the warm side, but not quite that warm.

    The contrasty lighting give a nice look to the image, but has two or three side effects I countered. The shadows were a bit too heavy, so I dodged those areas a bit to kill the shadows there a touch. Harsh lighting will also accentuate the pores in the skin and will introduce specular highlights on the skin. I softened the skin a bit and reduced the reflections on the skin. I also touched out a few hairs, especially the ones over her camera right eye.

    As for the crops; I prefer the first one that uses the scarf to frame the subject's face. I found that your framing was a bit too wide. We want the scarf to complement the face, without competing with it. There was a white area on the right side of the image; I cropped that out. On the left side, I found that the green in the bottom left corner and the area of wall or ceiling at the top left corner just added another element of distraction, so I cropped both of them out. This left less scarf in the image. I think this amount helps frame the face and helps explain the shadows being cast on the face without competing too much with the face.

    The second image is more of a classical head shot, but I don't think it is as strong as the first crop.

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Very well done, Raj.

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Nicely captured, interesting use of shadow and pattern.
    Thanks a lot for your kind review and appreciation

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Hi Raj I'm not a portrait shooter but I want to say my opinion .I like the image. I would crop it from the LHS and go for a nearly square crop as her scarf competes with her face .
    thanks a lot for your kind review and suggestion I also had same thing in my mind but was confused

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Manfred's first crop is what I had in mind Raj. May be I would crop the scarf just a tiny bit more but it is personal preference Manfred's second crop is a traditional one as he already mentioned but it is also nice. I think if the image was mine I would keep both versions


    Quote Originally Posted by fotugraphy View Post
    thanks a lot for your kind review and suggestion I also had same thing in my mind but was confused

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Excellent documentary portrait. I do like a square crop. However, on this shot, I think that a very slight bit of skin smoothing might make her image more flattering...

    It would all depend on the use of the final result. In pure documentary imagery, the original is far superior. But, if I were shooting this image for the young lady, I might consider this version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnnrcn View Post
    Manfred's first crop is what I had in mind Raj. May be I would crop the scarf just a tiny bit more but it is personal preference Manfred's second crop is a traditional one as he already mentioned but it is also nice. I think if the image was mine I would keep both versions
    Yes, I have kept the 1st version. I wanted to give this image somewhere where only some dodge and burning was allowed but for my profile i will smoothen out the skin more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpcrowe View Post
    Excellent documentary portrait. I do like a square crop. However, on this shot, I think that a very slight bit of skin smoothing might make her image more flattering...

    It would all depend on the use of the final result. In pure documentary imagery, the original is far superior. But, if I were shooting this image for the yound lady, I might consider this version...

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    Square crop is also looking awesome. I wanted to give this image somewhere where only some dodge and burning was allowed but for my profile i will smoothen out the skin more

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyDiver View Post
    Another beautiful shot, Raj. You seem to have a better at the camel fair than I did. I have lots of pictures of camels!

    When I first saw this image my initial concern was all that hair on your subject's forehead, until I realized that these were shadows cast by patterns in the scarf she is holding away from her head. Let me show you two possibilities for a crop and then my thoughts on how to edit. The edits are pretty well identical, other than the crop.

    Edit 1 - using the scarf to frame the model

    Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome



    Edit 2 - A more traditional headshot framing.

    Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome


    As for the edits; your exposure was right on; but I did a tiny tweak of the black point and white point. I found that the skin tones looked a bit too warm. I suspect that this might be due to the light coming through the red scarf warming things up, so I cooled things down a bit. I do prefer portraits to be a bit on the warm side, but not quite that warm.

    The contrasty lighting give a nice look to the image, but has two or three side effects I countered. The shadows were a bit too heavy, so I dodged those areas a bit to kill the shadows there a touch. Harsh lighting will also accentuate the pores in the skin and will introduce specular highlights on the skin. I softened the skin a bit and reduced the reflections on the skin. I also touched out a few hairs, especially the ones over her camera right eye.

    As for the crops; I prefer the first one that uses the scarf to frame the subject's face. I found that your framing was a bit too wide. We want the scarf to complement the face, without competing with it. There was a white area on the right side of the image; I cropped that out. On the left side, I found that the green in the bottom left corner and the area of wall or ceiling at the top left corner just added another element of distraction, so I cropped both of them out. This left less scarf in the image. I think this amount helps frame the face and helps explain the shadows being cast on the face without competing too much with the face.

    The second image is more of a classical head shot, but I don't think it is as strong as the first crop.
    thanks a lot for your kind review and suggestion. 1st crop is looking awesome.... I wanted to give this image somewhere where only some dodge and burning was allowed but for my profile i will smoothen out the skin more

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    Re: Pushkar Gal #2. C&C Welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAN01 View Post
    Very well done, Raj.
    Thanks a lot for your kind review and appreciation

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