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    Blue heron (BW)

    Comments welcomed.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Karm Redland View Post
    Comments welcomed.

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    A nice image, I like the content and composition, but it looks dark to me. Many times when people convert to b&w, their instinct is to get more contrast into the image, but as a result, they make the image darker.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Steve, I purposefully left everything dark except the base of the tree and the Heron's head. I definitely welcome comments on this strategy.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Karm Redland View Post
    Steve, I purposefully left everything dark except the base of the tree and the Heron's head. I definitely welcome comments on this strategy.

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    The brightness of your black and white should look the same as your color image. If the image needs more contrast, you'll have to find another way.................darkening the image only kills your shadow detail and highlights.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Steve, here's a more balanced image. Comments welcomed.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Karm, I can't tell you how much I prefer your first image. To my eyes the composition is balanced - it's a beauty!

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Karm, it is hard for me to decide which version is better IMO; however I think I will agree with Susan, and go with #1.

    Anyway, a very nice photograph. Were you shooting in RAW?

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Perhaps somewhere between the two.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    I like the image and composition very much. Although I have never explored B&W for a final image it does give me ideas. I have converted an image to B&W when using the Tone Curve converting it back to color for the final image.

    Seeing the partial reflection on the water I would have liked to see the total reflection in the image. I think it would onlyl have enhanced the composition.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Thanks Joe for your comments. I'll go back and look at the original image. (The one I posted here is cropped.) I'll look at your suggestion of including the entire reflection of the Heron.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Steve, unfortunately I agree with you. This will be my last attempt at this picture -- I promise.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Bruce, yes, it was shot in raw.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    I prefer the first one, although I think the trunk could be darkened a tad to place more emphasis on the bird's head. But I'm no expert...

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    Karm, you have good contrast in the first image, but it is very dark. In the second two versions , you brightened things up, but lost that good contrast. If you could keep the contrast of the first image, and brighten things up, you'll have a winner.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Very nice.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Thanks John.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    GBH's are a difficult subject due to their color and the fact of the normal foliage background.
    I usually get around the problem by making a selection of the bird and post-processing it separate from the background.
    The time spent is worth it for an image to be printed.

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    Re: Blue heron (BW)

    Thanks Chauncey. I know what I want the Heron to look like, I know what I want the tree in the water to look like, I know what I want the water reflections to look like, what I don't know is what all that foliage in the background is supposed to be doing. I originally did the pic in color and it looks nice. However, I think the BW has a lot more potential depth to it. In the first picture I posted I solved my problem by just darkening what I didn't understand.

    So yes, doing the Heron first and then separately doing the background makes lots of sense. I have tools that let me do that. However, as stated above, I really don't have a "fig" what part of the background should look like.

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