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    Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Shot this afternoon at the national Botanic Garden, Carmarthenshire, West Wales.

    Both with 5D, Sigma 105mm macro. It was quite dark as it was indoors on a gloomy day. Comments welcome.

    ISO400, f5.6, 1/80s

    Water lilies at NBG Wales


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    Water lilies at NBG Wales

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    really nice...love the detail on the close up... nice colors too..


    did u tripod this

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinbythebeach View Post
    really nice...love the detail on the close up... nice colors too..


    did u tripod this

    Thanks. No - handheld.

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    I really like the shallow focus and subtle colors, especially on the second photo. That pale lavender (?) color is really something and its amazing how it makes the yellow stand out even more. I guess its the nature opposite of camouflage (trying to attract rather than hide).

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Such wonderfully subtle colours, and a hand-held macro too. Love the framing on the top pic especially. The greenhouse frame in the reflection is a tiny bit distracting, but the fact that you have to be staring at the photo for so long to become aware of this, is testament enough as to its success!

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Hi Rob,

    I agree the colours are exquisite, well spotted and captured.

    No.1 looks just a tad noisy, mainly visible in the water, other than that, I have little to suggest.

    The other thing I noticed on No.1 (and not for the first time with some of your pictures) is when I viewed the EXIF it warned me there is no embedded colour profile, so it will probably be assumed to be sRGB. Since this is almost certainly what it is, you could argue it doesn't matter and I have to admit I cannot name you a browser that'll get it wrong.

    Nice,

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Some very nice shots Rob!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post
    No.1 looks just a tad noisy, mainly visible in the water, other than that, I have little to suggest.
    Not sure it's noise. The flower was in a raised tank, and the water did look a bit scummy due to it being still water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post
    The other thing I noticed on No.1 (and not for the first time with some of your pictures) is when I viewed the EXIF it warned me there is no embedded colour profile, so it will probably be assumed to be sRGB. Since this is almost certainly what it is, you could argue it doesn't matter and I have to admit I cannot name you a browser that'll get it wrong.
    When I create for web posting I use 'save for web' in CS4, and I specify sRGB.

    Thanks for the comments. Glad you like it.

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by carregwen View Post
    Not sure it's noise. The flower was in a raised tank, and the water did look a bit scummy due to it being still water.

    When I create for web posting I use 'save for web' in CS4, and I specify sRGB.

    Thanks for the comments. Glad you like it.
    Hi Rob,

    1) I could mistooken, I will re-calibrate my eyes this evening (when on usual monitor)

    2) I don't have CS4, but this isn't the first time when the "Save for web" option has seemed to not do the right, or expected, thing. I have no proof of this (how could I), but you might want to try saving 'normally', but doing what you think Save for web does, then use Save for web (having Undone any steps taken for first save) and compare the resulting files.

    3a) You're welcome
    3b) I do indeed

    I know you like to 'do things right' and I have a lot of respect for that Rob.

    BTW the second file had no real EXIF data available, was that saved differently?

    If you haven't seen it, you might want to try http://regex.info/exif.cgi using the Local Image File option, it'll tell you oodles about the files, it seems generally reliable.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post

    BTW the second file had no real EXIF data available, was that saved differently?

    If you haven't seen it, you might want to try http://regex.info/exif.cgi using the Local Image File option, it'll tell you oodles about the files, it seems generally reliable.

    Cheers,
    Dave

    If you post on Flickr you can select the image and get 'more properties' which is an option on the right below the shot.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carregw...93746149/meta/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carregw...93745649/meta/

    I use Opanda IEXIF, but if the EXIF wasn't saved with the file in 'save for web' then it won't be there.

    rob

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    Re: Water lilies at NBG Wales

    Hi Rob,

    As per my point 2) above, I don't think I trust CS4 'Save for web' to do 'the right thing', I don't use it on my PS Elements 6.

    Thanks for the extra links, I see they have different EC values, were you checking histogram and blinkies and setting this optimally for each shot? Like I should
    It was worth the effort by the way.

    Let that be a lesson to me

    Cheers,
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