A nice autumn day with dad

Very nice heartwarming series Vaez. My best is #2 and I love the look in your father's eyes in #3 and #7. If you shoot your father on a bike again, it is better to include the whole bike and his feet in the frame :)

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Originally Posted by Dave Humphries

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Hi Vaez,

I hope I can provide a little guidance on each for you.

#1 Although it could be said that the space around your father on his bike shows how big the area is, personally, I might have cropped this a tighter, placing your father and bike on the lower left thirds intersection. In other words, crop 25-30% off the right hand side and, since that makes it very tall and thin, crop the top off, from just above the trees (on left). Good exposure and focus - and the camera looks level.

#2 If possible, I might have tried to include just a little more across the bottom edge of frame, so we could see his shoe, pedal and the axle of the front wheel. However, I suspect you can't do that now, but regardless of that, as others have said, this is a lovely portrait. Good exposure, focus and Depth of Field (DoF).

#3 Is a bit over exposed, also there's a lot of emptiness above his head and I feel I'd like to have seen a little more of his chest. The black point cold be lowered a bit further in LightRoom (LR) too (for more contrast). Excellent choice of aperture for narrow DoF.

#4 A nice scene, perhaps if panned left slightly, it would be better, but if, as I suspect, this was taken by the camera on self timer and your in the shot, that's entirely understandable. The red bag is a bit of a distraction, although it perhaps holds some value to your family(?), in which case, ignore me. A very pleasant family picnic shot which I'm sure you'll treasure in years to come, irrespective of my suggestions.

#5 I find the branches top right a bit of a distraction which I think you could lose by cropping the top 15% off the picture height. This one is also a bit over exposed, you could probably improve it in LR. Good focus on his face despite his hand and the background.

#6 It is a well framed shot, but lacks any human interest - it is a shame your father is not down by that door/gate. I don't know if this place holds any family significance(?).

#7 A very nice portrait once again, I really cannot think of anything to suggest to improve it.

#8 Apart from being slightly over exposed, this is another great picture of your father.

So all in all, you have made it difficult in several of these shots to find anything that warrants their removal, none are that bad, I just don't appreciate the relevance of #6.

I hope that feedback is helpful and, as I appreciate that English is not your first language, do PM (Private Message) me if you don't understand anything I have said and I'll help.

Fathers (and mothers) don't last forever (mine died 18 years ago), so it is good to see you making the most of your family.

Best wishes to all your family, Dave

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hi dear dave
thanks so much for comment and attention and sugestion
Three of the photos I've edited again according to your suggestion , if I understand correctly
But Edith again when zooming the image pixels Destruction
Especially in the forehead
6 I thought maybe a new idea is to remove
Anyone can build a relationship established story previous picture
i appreciated of you

again pp 3 photo
1http://i62.tinypic.com/aa7qyp.jpg

5
http://i57.tinypic.com/8y9o40.jpg
3
http://i62.tinypic.com/2ikp9c8.jpg

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

Very nice heartwarming series Vaez. My best is #2 and I love the look in your father's eyes in #3 and #7. If you shoot your father on a bike again, it is better to include the whole bike and his feet in the frame :)

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hi binnur dear
thanks a lot for comment and choices

Hi Vaez,

Yes, those are the changes I had in mind, thank you.

The 'destruction of the pixels' is a problem which is often caused by repeatedly editing the same jpg image.
Shooting RAW, not jpg, is one way to minimise it.

When you edit your pictures and save them, do you change the file name slightly?
I ask because it is best practice to always keep the original file unaltered, so that if you do ever need to edit an image again, you could start from the original file (and Save a new copy), which helps avoid a build up of destroyed pixels, rather than continue editing the previous one.

Anyway, I hope you found my thoughts helpful.

All the best, Dave

Hi Vaez, edits look better :) In your edit of #3, I think there is a little bit of yellow color cast in the image. You can adjust it by changing the white balance. BTW, as Dave suggests, shooting raw helps a lot to improve your images with PP.

A great series. I can add nothing more of useful technical advice than that which has been already said in the above by others more knowledgable than me in these matters.
He is a very distinguished Gentleman whom you have captured beautifully. I think I would like to have been a tad closer to him in #1. He is the object of this series I gather and in this shot for me the impact of his character is a bit too diluted because, to paraphrase an Oz saying, "The Tyranny of Distance." #3,5 and 7 are crackers of captures. What are your thoughts in #5 of a bit of a clean up or crop of the curved branch and dead leaf above your Dad's head?
And to be a nit picker. #6 is a nice tight shot with interesting patterns of light. But for me it just did not seem to belong to the theme you seem to have set out to explore. As well, for me as a viewer who has no background knowledge of how this relates to your Dad, it seems rather dull and flat when stacked up against the vitality and liveliness which is jut so evident in the other captures of your Dad. His personality just leaps out. Nice work.
And remember that you should not take too much notice of an old grump like me. No one else does! So why should you? :D No, for the really good oil and best advice, Dave H is your man.:cool:

Vaez, so nice of you to share these with us. This is a touching and thoughtful post with many kind responses – the best of CiC is well shown in your post and the many thoughtful responses you have received. I would underscore the value of shooting RAW so that you can edit and edit and edit non-destructively, so to become more facile with what you can do in post processing.

I think I understand your inspiration best from the third, and I think the suggestions for edit, and the results are fine, but I am struck by the idea that your destination is not solely one of technical acceptability.

I am tempted instead to add that it is so obvious that you love your lovely father so well, and know him so deeply that you may find that your own heart, if you listen, may tell you even more than your friends here can about how these images should be treated. I think because he is so dear to you, that you know more than anyone else what portrays him best. So, in addition to exploring the many sound suggestions you’ve received, I’d suggest you spend some time seeing where the wise, quiet spaces in your own heart take you with these images of a good man. I suspect you know better than anyone else how he looks, and should be shown.

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Originally Posted by Dave Humphries

Hi Vaez,

Yes, those are the changes I had in mind, thank you.

The 'destruction of the pixels' is a problem which is often caused by repeatedly editing the same jpg image.
Shooting RAW, not jpg, is one way to minimise it.

When you edit your pictures and save them, do you change the file name slightly?
I ask because it is best practice to always keep the original file unaltered, so that if you do ever need to edit an image again, you could start from the original file (and Save a new copy), which helps avoid a build up of destroyed pixels, rather than continue editing the previous one.

Anyway, I hope you found my thoughts helpful.

All the best, Dave

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hi dave thanks again for comment and good suggestion:)
Your advice is very helpful for me.
I had the photos in Lightroom raw format
To edit a history of back options open, edit and re- gained
But I saw a loss of pixel data
Thank you very much for the help anyway
I am ashamed
kindest regards vaez

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Originally Posted by ucci

A great series. I can add nothing more of useful technical advice than that which has been already said in the above by others more knowledgable than me in these matters.
He is a very distinguished Gentleman whom you have captured beautifully. I think I would like to have been a tad closer to him in #1. He is the object of this series I gather and in this shot for me the impact of his character is a bit too diluted because, to paraphrase an Oz saying, "The Tyranny of Distance." #3,5 and 7 are crackers of captures. What are your thoughts in #5 of a bit of a clean up or crop of the curved branch and dead leaf above your Dad's head?
And to be a nit picker. #6 is a nice tight shot with interesting patterns of light. But for me it just did not seem to belong to the theme you seem to have set out to explore. As well, for me as a viewer who has no background knowledge of how this relates to your Dad, it seems rather dull and flat when stacked up against the vitality and liveliness which is jut so evident in the other captures of your Dad. His personality just leaps out. Nice work.
And remember that you should not take too much notice of an old grump like me. No one else does! So why should you? :D No, for the really good oil and best advice, Dave H is your man.:cool:

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hello ken outch
thank you for comment and attentions and suggestion
pleas what tyranny of distance?
cheers vaez

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Originally Posted by Downrigger

Vaez, so nice of you to share these with us. This is a touching and thoughtful post with many kind responses – the best of CiC is well shown in your post and the many thoughtful responses you have received. I would underscore the value of shooting RAW so that you can edit and edit and edit non-destructively, so to become more facile with what you can do in post processing.

I think I understand your inspiration best from the third, and I think the suggestions for edit, and the results are fine, but I am struck by the idea that your destination is not solely one of technical acceptability.

I am tempted instead to add that it is so obvious that you love your lovely father so well, and know him so deeply that you may find that your own heart, if you listen, may tell you even more than your friends here can about how these images should be treated. I think because he is so dear to you, that you know more than anyone else what portrays him best. So, in addition to exploring the many sound suggestions you’ve received, I’d suggest you spend some time seeing where the wise, quiet spaces in your own heart take you with these images of a good man. I suspect you know better than anyone else how he looks, and should be shown.

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hello mark thank so much
Yes, here is my contribution to the usefulness of friends
I should try to understand English if I am involved in this site
I sigh every day that I wish I could better understand
Users are very caring with compassion to answer
Google Dictionary is a very useful
I need a translator specialized photography
I sometimes annoying friends and colleagues
Your very loving

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

Hi Vaez, edits look better :) In your edit of #3, I think there is a little bit of yellow color cast in the image. You can adjust it by changing the white balance. BTW, as Dave suggests, shooting raw helps a lot to improve your images with PP.

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hi binnur
Thank you for the comment again
All images are raw format
w & b for setting 've Cloudy
Thank you for your attention

Vaez, the pictures of your Father remind me too much of mine, and so I am content to just appreciate your photographs as they are.

Very nice capture of a wonderful day. I feel that images like these are more memories than anything and should be edited/processed as you saw/feel them. :)

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Originally Posted by vaez

I should try to understand English if I am involved in this site
I sigh every day that I wish I could better understand
Users are very caring with compassion to answer
Google Dictionary is a very useful
I need a translator specialized photography
I sometimes annoying friends and colleagues
Your very loving

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Vaez, I am thrilled that you have joined this forum and very impressed by your efforts to communicate in a language other than your own. One of the many things I like about this forum is its international reach and cultural diversity.

I myself do not know a word of Farsi, but a member of my family does (the husband of a cousin of mine is Iranian) and I have several Iranian friends and acquaintances, so if you need help with translation in either direction, please feel free to contact me through personal messaging and I will do what I can to help you. My cousin's husband shoots a lot of video, so he may be able to help us with the more technical terms.

Hugs,
Janis

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Originally Posted by purplehaze

Vaez, I am thrilled that you have joined this forum and very impressed by your efforts to communicate in a language other than your own. One of the many things I like about this forum is its international reach and cultural diversity.

I myself do not know a word of Farsi, but a member of my family does (the husband of a cousin of mine is Iranian) and I have several Iranian friends and acquaintances, so if you need help with translation in either direction, please feel free to contact me through personal messaging and I will do what I can to help you. My cousin's husband shoots a lot of video, so he may be able to help us with the more technical terms.

Hugs,
Janis

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hi dear janis
Thank you very much for the kindness and love
I sent you a private message
I am very happy to be in contact with you or your family
I'd like to see of video your cousins husband
kindest regards vaez:)

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Originally Posted by mknittle

Very nice capture of a wonderful day. I feel that images like these are more memories than anything and should be edited/processed as you saw/feel them. :)

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Thank you for comment
Yes it is a memorable day

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Originally Posted by flashback

Vaez, the pictures of your Father remind me too much of mine, and so I am content to just appreciate your photographs as they are.

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hi jackp.
thanks attentions and comment