The Chief & Howe Sound Fjord

Very nice composition and colours :)

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Originally Posted by Christina S

Thank you Mike, John and Binnur

Mike...

Thank you as always. Here is the edit... I also cropped it a little differently as I was not fond the patch on the mountains on the right hand side. I decided to post it here instead of replacing the other image so others can learn from this too.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original

John, Thank you for letting me know that. It's actually the ocean but in a passage way. The waters are a beautiful blue green and usually calm.

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I mentioned that I darken and add warmth to reduce haze. I forgot to mention that I also increase the contrast. Sorry about that!

I make those changes using sliders, which is very rare for me. The method works and is easy so I use the sliders.

Binnur: By darkening, I mean that I am reducing the brightness (the exposure). The terms used by various software applications will vary but the effect should be the same.

I hate the effect of haze, so my treatment is almost always stronger than the treatment Christina used. See my treatment shown below, but please understand that I did not take the time to carefully limit the boundaries of the selection. I applied the treatment to the areas that do NOT include the sky, snow, water, and light green forest in the lower left area of the image.


http://i57.tinypic.com/24yql8j.jpg

Thanks for explaining Mike. I remember noting down this recipe for decreasing haze after reading it in one of your posts, but I can't remember adding warmth. How can I add warmth to the affected area? with a warming filter?

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Originally Posted by Mike Buckley

I mentioned that I darken and add warmth to reduce haze. I forgot to mention that I also increase the contrast. Sorry about that!

Binnur: By darkening, I mean that I am reducing the brightness. The terms used by various software applications will vary but the effect should be the same.

I hate the effect of haze, so my treatment is almost always stronger than the treatment Christina used. See my treatment shown below, but please understand that I did not take the time to carefully limit the boundaries of the selection.


http://i57.tinypic.com/24yql8j.jpg

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

How can I add warmth to the affected area? with a warming filter?

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If your software has a Warmth slider, that might be the easiest method. Otherwise, you could use your software's color balance controls so long as they can be applied to part of the image rather than all of it.

As far as I know there is no warmth slider in PS CC, but may be I can try it with hue and saturation layer which can be applied selectively :rolleyes: Thanks Mike.

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Originally Posted by Mike Buckley

If your software has a Warmth slider, that might be the easiest method. Otherwise, you could use your software's color balance controls so long as they can be applied to part of the image rather than all of it.

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Hi Binnur,

Here is a screen shot of my edits. I used curves with a layer mask to darken the mountains, lowering the opacity because I didn't want the mountains to be as dark (albeit on my own time I am going to try another edit somewhere between Mikes and mine). Then I erased the mask from the water and trees and sky to my taste and to suit the rest of the image.

To warm up the mountains I used a layer mask with a warming filter, and again erased it from the rest of the image, leaving it just on the mountains and the tree coloured peninsula.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...M.png~original

Thank you Christina. Instead of applying your edit to the whole image and then erasing the unwanted parts, you can select the area which you want to edit and then create a layer with a mask. In this case your edit will be applied only to the selected area and you won't have to erase anything :)

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Originally Posted by Christina S

Hi Binnur,

Here is a screen shot of my edits. I used curves with a layer mask to darken the mountains, lowering the opacity because I didn't want the mountains to be as dark (albeit on my own time I am going to try another edit somewhere between Mikes and mine). Then I erased the mask from the water and trees and sky to my taste and to suit the rest of the image.

To warm up the mountains I used a layer mask with a warming filter, and again erased it from the rest of the image, leaving it just on the mountains and the tree coloured peninsula.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...M.png~original

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Thank you Binnur... For some reason I find it easier to erase (leaving no lines) than I do to select things (lines seen). Nevertheless I will give it a try one day.

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

Thank you Christina. Instead of applying your edit to the whole image and then erasing the unwanted parts, you can select the area which you want to edit and then create a layer with a mask. In this case your edit will be applied only to the selected area and you won't have to erase anything :)

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Christina,

Now that I see your curve, your results would be more like mine if you used an S-curve or a variation of it. That's because an S-curve will increase the contrast whereas your curve decreases it. Having said that, I have often used a curve like yours to decrease haze. I do whatever works best at the time.

Christina,

You and Binnur are apparently using PS CC for this. You're using a warming filter but Binnur isn't aware there is one. If you let him know how to navigate to it, I'm sure he will be eternally grateful. Eternal is a looooooooong time. :D

Hi Mike, using a warming filter occured to me just after posting my answer in post #25, so, no need to further explanation because I know how to do it :) BTW I'm a 'she' not 'he' ;)

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Originally Posted by Mike Buckley

Christina,

You and Binnur are apparently using PS CC for this. You're using a warming filter but Binnur isn't aware there is one. If you let him know how to navigate to it, I'm sure he will be eternally grateful. Eternal is a looooooooong time. :D

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Nevertheless I hope you will be eternally grateful for this. I rather like the thought :) And someone else may wish to know how, or it may just be because you are of the male species that may be a little shy to ask for help :))

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...M.png~original

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...M.png~original

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

Hi Mike, using a warming filter occured to me just after posting my answer in post #25, so, no need to further explanation because I know how to do it :) BTW I'm a 'she' not 'he' ;)

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Christina I usually use short ways for layers. I just choose the icon I need from 'add an adjustment' window. I have added this info in case someone else might find useful. BTW I'm not a 'he' as I said before, if you look at my profile you can see my photo :)

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Originally Posted by Christina S

Nevertheless I hope you will be eternally grateful for this. I rather like the thought :) And someone else may wish to know how, or it may just be because you are of the male species that may be a little shy to ask for help :))

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...M.png~original

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...M.png~original

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Hi Binnur,

Thank you so much. I seem to be fond of doing things the hard way. I will try this out. Truly appreciated.

My sincere apologies for the mix-up. Definitely female. :) I should've known because you ask just as many questions as I do, and you also seem to be as fond as the smiley face as I am.

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

Christina I usually use short ways for layers. I just choose the icon I need from 'add an adjustment' window. I have added this info in case someone else might find useful. BTW I'm not a 'he' as I said before, if you look at my profile you can see my photo :)

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Originally Posted by bnnrcn

BTW I'm a 'she' not 'he' ;)

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The depths of my embarrassment could not possibly be properly conveyed...unless you could see the unusual, temporary tone of my skin.

Thank you Mike.

I used the preset for darker (Curves)without giving a thought to the contrast. Following is my edit with the proper curve.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...y.jpg~original

Thank you for your help. I've learned a lot from this set of images.

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Originally Posted by Mike Buckley

Christina,

Now that I see your curve, your results would be more like mine if you used an S-curve or a variation of it. That's because an S-curve will increase the contrast whereas your curve decreases it. Having said that, I have often used a curve like yours to decrease haze. I do whatever works best at the time.

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It's OK Mike, apparently you are not familiar with Turkish names, no problem at all :)

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Originally Posted by Mike Buckley

The depths of my embarrassment could not possibly be properly conveyed...unless you could see the unusual, temporary tone of my skin.

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No problem with the mix-up Christina :)

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Originally Posted by Christina S

Hi Binnur,

Thank you so much. I seem to be fond of doing things the hard way. I will try this out. Truly appreciated.

My sincere apologies for the mix-up. Definitely female. :) I should've known because you ask just as many questions as I do, and you also seem to be as fond as the smiley face as I am.

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If your software allows you to save particular adjustment settings that can be named, it would be good to save a combination of settings that can be automatically retrieved to reduce haze. I simply load my Haze adjustment settings that I saved years ago and use those settings at least as a point of departure.

I don't like shooting in hazy conditions but I'm often at a place knowing that I won't be able to return in better conditions. So, I capture the scene and hope for the best once I get to my post-processing software.

Mike... Thank you for the tips ion presets. Will do.

Binnur... I forgot to say that I ordered both of those books on Photoshop CC but chose free delivery so I may not receive them until the 3rd week of June. So in the near future I will have some handy references to help me learn the program.