The silent majority

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Originally Posted by pnodrog

I have just been looking at a photograph (Star storm..under my umbrella..ella..ella. By Daisy Mae) which I like – not sure why (probably the moody lighting etc) and I did not leave a comment.

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Why didn’t you post THAT comment, there?
Were you shy, apathetic or just a bit too busy?

“I like this image, but I am not sure why I like it – probably I like it because of the mood lighting etc”


WW

Bill, that is exactly what I was asking myself when I started this thread and I have assumed sooner or later the photographer would get to know about it. However initially I was starting the thread to apologise not just to her but to all the people who's photographs I have admired and not let them know. Unfortunately out of curiosity I changed the topic slightly. I will have to hunt back through a large number of threads to correct this very remissive lack of praise so I will claim I am too busy.

Thanks - but you didn't answer my question. Have you not yet found your answer?

I found the (Daisy Mae) thread in about eight seconds: using the search function and key words 'Star Storm'.

There was very little 'hunting back through a number of threads' involved.

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/fo...hread24187.htm


WW

You miss understood me. To be fair to everyone I would have to back to numerous threads and leave comments on all them. Daisy Mae was just the example and a fine one at that.

I did - indeed!

I misunderstood your words, entirely.

I understand now: and yes - within that understanding of your words I now note that you DID indeed answer my question. Thank you.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify: sorry for my misunderstanding.


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To answer YOUR question – I rarely open a thread in any CC request section unless I have the time to make comment.

I approach CC from a similar point of view to ‘Judging’ (which I do quite a bit) – so any CC from me tends to be involved and that takes time: much, much more time than touch typing (and I am quick) a rapid response to a more technical question; or problem; or a discussion which just requires a point of view; or a comment from experience; or a black and white knowledge answer.

As much as (hopefully) assisting the OP – any CC from me is win/win: because I am keeping my CC skills in good fettle - and I do CC for that reason, also.

WW

I have spent the last hour or so (yes, I am a slow reader...I am also watching a football game and election coverage) reading the posts on this thread and I must say that I admit to being in the "Silent Majority". Why...partly due to time restraints (I work 60+ hrs/wk and teach two classes), but mostly due to my lack of knowledge on the technical aspects of photography. I am, like many on this forum, just getting into photography and yes, I am a bit afraid that if I do comment that my comment might be misunderstood or worse yet that I may sound ignorant(well I kind of am ignorant). Now for the up-side...the longer I am on this forum the more comfortable I am getting in making a comment or two. This is due to all the wonderful people on here that have made me feel comfortable and willingly given their time to help me, and others, understand and learn. This is a wonderful "family" and hopefully the more I learn the more I will be able to share my thoughts about others images as they are posted.

Thanks for all that everybody does.

Cheers,
Jon

Bill glad we sorted out any confusion. Have seen some of your comments on other threads and your contributions are very good. (well I think so even if they are coming from the outback's of Sraylya)

Jon everyone's reaction to an images is valid. The only difference is the greater the viewers experience the more likely they understand the reason for their reaction or what the technical short comings are in a photo and thus can make a more informed analytical comment. Some people do not like spiders and the more technically perfect the photograph so probably the greater their dislike. So appreciation of the subject matter is crucial and is dependent on each individual. The technical aspects merely hinder or enhance how well the subject works as presented in the image.

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Originally Posted by pnodrog

everyone's reaction to an images is valid. The only difference is the greater the viewers experience the more likely they understand the reason for their reaction or what the technical short comings are in a photo and thus can make a more informed analytical comment.

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Doesn't matter all that much for general critique, if the Photographer seeking critique is 'in tune'.

One very good exercise for Photographers seeking critique of their work, is to ask Children (about 7 to 13 years is good), with whom they have RAPPORT - to choose what photos they 'like', from a selection.

The next question is very important.

Ask them "why do you like that one and NOT that one?"

If one listens to the answers, there is usually a lot of value - keep pressing the "why?" question.


WW

Yes, you are right. Children's assessments are without all the prejudices and expectations that an "experienced" viewer will have. However an experienced viewer will say nice things like the focus is soft rather than the children's alarmingly honest it's fuzzy. I never said the "experienced" viewer's comments would be any more valid only that they may be able to analyse and express themselves more concisely.

P.S. Most children would love a good spider photograph probably beat a flower shot every time.... Maybe I am still a child at heart?

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Originally Posted by pnodrog

I never said the "experienced" viewer's comments would be any more valid only that they may be able to analyse and express themselves more concisely.

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Previoulsy Noted.
Hence the underlined portion of the quote, specifically: which I was referencing.

I.e. I was making the point that the level of understanding of the technicalities by the person providing the critique, does not necessarily rank primary, in the value of (general) critique.

As noted: direct & simple speech; without prejudice of experiences, are two values Children often possess and those values are very useful.



WW

Yeah, I thought we agreed just wanted to make sure anyone else understood. (wrong place to mention it but I love my zoom)

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Originally Posted by pnodrog

. . . I love my zoom

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bah humbug! you KIWIs are all the same . . .

This is my thread so I would like the last say thanks! you .... you... ..... no I better not put it in writing.