C&C welcome.
Disappointment 4_M8A3729 copy by Foot Loose2012, on Flickr
C&C welcome.
Disappointment 4_M8A3729 copy by Foot Loose2012, on Flickr
Is the subject the lady on the very right hand side Greg ? If so, IMO the image needs a tighter crop to make the subject stand out more.
An interpretation of body language, definitely makes the viewer gaze around the image. Agree with Binnur, she needs something to make her stand out more. Nice effort.
Hi George, Binnur and John. Thanks for commenting. I had thought (hoped) that the converging lines formed by the heads and feet of the people in the queue would direct the viewer's eye to the girl with her hand over her face next to the truck. (It's an ice cream vendor.)
But I'll try a tighter crop to see if that makes her a bit more obvious. How is this?
I still don't see disappointment. Maybe you know something that's not in the image. When I look close to that girl she is turning into the sun and protecting her eyes.
In general when you want to express disappointment there must be 2 items: the expression and the reason in relation to each other, somehow.
George
The edit helps, especially with the other young lady walking away empty handed; or could she just be moving towards the end of the line and disappointments awaits.
Nice conversion and composition!
For me, there is no composition in this scene that will convey a sense of disappointment for the reasons explained by George. Even so, disappointment is not an essential element for this scene to be effective.
I especially like the first version as a straightforward portrayal of a long line of people waiting to get their food. The strong diagonal works well as does the connection between the tricycle at one end and the sign at the other end clearly indicating that the vendor is selling ice cream, a product that would be universally wanted by anyone of the age to be riding a tricycle. Beyond that, the viewer can also wonder what each individual is thinking, such as the little boy at the end who has gotten off his tricycle, the conversations taking place in line, the woman walking away without having purchased anything, the woman with her hand over her eyes, etc., etc.
Last edited by Mike Buckley; 24th August 2016 at 11:53 AM.
George, John, Mike and Binnur, thank you for additional comments.
Street - pictures of people - for me is always open to interpretation. You make up your own narrative about what is going on. If no-one else sees the girl's body language as an expression of disappointment then I guess, as George suggests, I was picking up on some signal at the time that is not evident in the final image.
There is a difference between this kind of photography and on the other hand wildlife, birds,flowers etc.
When you show this photo to the world you should have asked yourself: is what I see also visible for others? The answer is not always clear but you must ask it to yourself. Step out of the body that took the picture and view it as a stranger.
George
Thank you, Radu, for offering another reading.
Good idea - I saw the girl.
Yes I agree that the (converging) line of people moves the Viewer's Eye that way, but note that it is not a very strong line and it is not easy for the eye to travel in one fluid motion: the eye gets jarred by all the backsides and especially gets stopped by the woman in black in the middle of the line.
Cropping is an option but there seems a substantial loss in quality?
It is very easy to state after the event but - I think the better shot would have been to run and be 4 to 5 meters from her and a bit to camera right getting the side of the ice-cream truck in the shot - and just her.
The 50/1.8 on a 7DMkII would work fine for that shot.
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On another point - why ISO1000?
There are hard shadows on the ground so the scene is at about EV = 15.
All the Subjects are front lit in hard sun, so I think you should have been pulling around ISO 100 . . . something like "F/8 @ 1/400s @ ISO100" that's an old standard newspaper photographer's exposure for front lit sun (using Ilford FP4).
I can't see any need for Tv = 1/4000s for that shot.
WW
Agree, but I haven't been able to run since 1965 when my knees were badly injured while playing football. So, I took what I could get - and who knows how long she would have kept her hand held over her face like that.
Yes, that is the camera and lens used.
I was using aperture priority mode, set to F8. I boosted the ISO to 1000 to ensure that the shutter speed would stay above 1000. I had previously been viewing youtube videos on street photography and someone suggested those settings, so I tried it on this afternoon. S/s 1000 seems to deliver a steady shot under most circumstances.
Thanks for the detailed response.
Sorry to hear about your knees - considering "1965" that sounds quite a serious injury - yes, really sorry to hear that.
The comment was not a criticism per se, (I think you gleaned that), it was simply to underscore how important Camera Viewpoint is to best execute a 'good idea'.
Yes. I agree to get what you can get when you see it. Injury or no injury being considered. That is a key factor of good street work: but equally important is once that shot is in the can - go after a better one, even if it means walking at a steady and safe pace.
Yes, thanks for confirming Av Mode - I read also that in the EXIF: If one is working in Av Mode - then I am keen advocate of thinking about the ISO and making a selection based upon "safe" shutter speeds: but, just continuing that concept and applying it to this particular shooting scenario - it was a bright sunny day and for that I'd typically be around ISO400 (for F/8) which allows a reasonably safe Tv even if I walk into Open Shade. But sure I can't argue that keeping it at or above 1/1000s is a "really safe" shutter speed . . . and if that is comfortable for you, that's a good logical approach: it is all about the thinking it through and having a good reason for making the choices.
Nice chat.
What part of Strayla? It looks like a NSW Plate, on the Ice-Cream Vendor's van?
WW
PS . . and I just noticed what looks like a bunnies "cares" shirt, on the bike rider in the un-cropped version
Last edited by William W; 23rd September 2016 at 05:46 AM. Reason: added my PS
Your tone of writing implied nothing other than open reception - no apologies please
I'm a little north of you - but not much - in the shire
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