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    Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Taken at low tide on a foggy, overcast morning. A rain shower had just blown in from the sea. I had been waiting for this for about a half hour because I noticed an earlier shower gave increased texture to the mist in the trees.

    Just as conditions ripened I was given a ten second warning from my wife and sister in law that we had to leave NOW in order to get somewhere before it closed. I was expecting this, so it was no shock; a disappointment only. Two quick shots with two sets of eyes boring into the back of my head and off we went.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Nice one; i also feel if you had it in color, trim out all details of the foregrounds, as if there is jungle only; that would look like a great water color painting
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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    I adore the misty trees but the foreground doesn't seem as pretty as it should be (water and boats) so I think I would prefer this one in colour.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Thanks Nandakumar and Christine, this is the colour version.

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    and I think this is close to the crop you suggested. Quite interesting and something I will bear in mind as an option when composing in camera for the future

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    I really like mist scenes like this and have so far not been able to pull one off myself to my liking. I think the crop suggestion by Nandakumar, leaving only the trees and mist works, as the boats and shore detail were the weakest part of the full image for me. It is now quite a lovely panorama. The colour also is an enhancement. I have taken the liberty of running your image through my DXO Optic Pro, adjusting the exposure compensation and using their smart lighting to bring out the trees. If you want me to remove the image please let me know and I shall do so immediately.

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    Nothing like a bit of pressure to make you focus. Please excuse the pun.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Hi Trevor,

    I prefer the colour versions, and the cropped version, and I also like Barry's edit...

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    As first presened it is just a holiday snap recording that rain interupted your stay but cropped as people suggest you start to have something interesting however from my camera club indocrination [ ] I try to arrange dark tones on the right hand side of the picture and when I look at it is editing I find it rather soft ... so a horizontal flip and an increase in contrast ... but I am dissatisfied and wish you had stayed a few seconds more and taken a second shot showing more sky/cloud/ whatever is above what you did take here.
    You need to train your associates that an artist is not to be rushed Just provided with an umbrella to protect the valuable equipmetn that deprived them of that new dress they had their eye on.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    I'm afraid I find myself at odds with others above in terms of how this image should be presented. I think the original vision as set out in the first copy in this thread, is an absolute winner. I find this a much, much stronger image than any of the other interpretations.

    I think the darker tones on the two boats front-right works perfectly with the, then, muted tones across the rest of the image.

    I appreciate we all see images differently (thank goodness), but no matter how hard I try, I cannot see that original as a 'holiday snap'. I see the final product as a very fine example of photography.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    I agree with Donald and I also like the original image in colour. The only thing I would change regarding the composition is to clone out the small boat crossing the bottom edge of the frame.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Hi Trevor,

    I think my preference for colour may just be because I usually prefer colour photos and I'm used to seeing this area in colour. As I don't have much experience in landscape photography I would listen to Donald, especially if he likes it in B&W..

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowy55 View Post
    If you want me to remove the image please let me know and I shall do so immediately.
    Nothing like a bit of pressure to make you focus. Please excuse the pun.
    Barry; no need to worry . I actively encourage anyone to give their version. The variability in vision, is what makes critique so valuable in this forum. I have learned a lot from having others present their processed versions of my shots. Usually someone will see an aspect, portion or interpretation I have missed. A great learning tool

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by jcuknz View Post
    As first presened it is just a holiday snap recording that rain interupted your stay but cropped as people suggest you start to have something interesting however from my camera club indocrination [ ] I try to arrange dark tones on the right hand side of the picture and when I look at it is editing I find it rather soft ... so a horizontal flip and an increase in contrast ... but I am dissatisfied and wish you had stayed a few seconds more and taken a second shot showing more sky/cloud/ whatever is above what you did take here.
    You need to train your associates that an artist is not to be rushed Just provided with an umbrella to protect the valuable equipmetn that deprived them of that new dress they had their eye on.
    I will try the flip. An interesting attack to the processing I hadn't thought of.

    As for the almighty rush to leave. When we got to the doggy day care (I was informed that the gates close at ten am, sharp.), where my sister in law's pooch was going while we visited other relatives, the owner said she knew we were coming and would have gladly waited if we had rung ahead. Turns out she is an artist (watercolour and sculpture) and when I started talking about this shot was horrified that I had walked away without exhausting every possibility offered by the circumstances.
    To be fair however; my wife and sister in law didn't know she would have waited and they had already given me half an hour to do my thing.
    I blame nature for her continuing lack of cooperation with my plans. Someone needs to talk to her planning department.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    +1 to what Philip (and Donald) said )

    I prefer the mono, but agree that losing that half a superstructure at bottom edge of frame helps.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    I greatly appreciate your readiness to accept all suggestions from other viewers and experiment on them and accept interpretations from others. One more thing, i did never say i did not like the original; your image brought reminiscence of many water color paintings i have seen; that is why i proposed that; I liked snowy's variation as well as the original color
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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    I prefer the colour version because when I look at the colour version my eyes are immediately drawn to the foreground, with all the pretty boats and water (which look prettier in colour to me), and then after a moment I look up and see the beautiful trees with the mist.

    When I look at the B&W my eyes are also immediately drawn to the foreground but the boats aren't as pretty in B&W (for me).

    Yes, I've been trying to figure out why I prefer the colour version over the B&W... all this time... So I guess it is just that the colour version is prettier, to me.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    For me the original image is very soft in focus almost like it has had a tissue over the lens and the part image that Barry did with it brings out the details in it much better and you still get the misty come rain over the trees.

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    I'm smitten with the first version; for me it best conveys the damp quiet of the low tide and clouds in the trees. I find the bright reds in the color version a considerable distraction. While I quite like the cropped version I'm left feeling as though I need something to ground the image; a larger reference. As I'm trying to learn to make some landscape images I am enjoying the images and varying points of view.
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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Christina S View Post
    I prefer the colour version because when I look at the colour version my eyes are immediately drawn to the foreground, with all the pretty boats and water (which look prettier in colour to me), and then after a moment I look up and see the beautiful trees with the mist.

    When I look at the B&W my eyes are also immediately drawn to the foreground but the boats aren't as pretty in B&W (for me).

    Yes, I've been trying to figure out why I prefer the colour version over the B&W... all this time... So I guess it is just that the colour version is prettier, to me.
    I wouldn't worry. Personal preference is something you shouldn't have to justify (unless you are a middle aged or older man wearing a speedo)
    As I struggle through doing these conversions to black and white I am beginning to appreciate that, as Donald has pointed out several times, colour and monochrome are two very different beasts. I am often horrified at the appearance of an image in colour I have converted to black and white then turned off the black and white conversion. The contrast and colour just doesn't suit a colour version. Not too sound like an expert in an area I am a decided novice in; but monochrome is a study in shapes, forms, the interplay of light and shading and the resulting tonal variance. With colour you can sneak somewhat past the last two areas. Often an image that works well in one genre fails miserably in the other. Trust your own judgement in this area.

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    Re: Rainy morning Tswassen BC C&C welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    For me the original image is very soft in focus almost like it has had a tissue over the lens and the part image that Barry did with it brings out the details in it much better and you still get the misty come rain over the trees.

    The original is even fuzzier. It was shot with a telephoto through several hundred metres of mist and fog. Everything is flat and pale. I like Barry's version too, it just is not what i was aiming for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewMcD View Post
    I'm smitten with the first version; for me it best conveys the damp quiet of the low tide and clouds in the trees. I find the bright reds in the color version a considerable distraction. While I quite like the cropped version I'm left feeling as though I need something to ground the image; a larger reference. As I'm trying to learn to make some landscape images I am enjoying the images and varying points of view.
    Thank you,
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    Good eye. I went back to my image and slightly desaturated the red. I was aiming to enhance it a bit but it got away on me. The human eye likes red and in my original treatment I made the viewer spend too much time on the small red bits and not the overall image.

    Thanks

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