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    Black background in Lightroom4.

    I was playing around with Lr4 and transformed the leafy background to black. First I used vignetting that only does the edges of the picture. Then I tried the brush in the develop module. I used the adjustment brush and turned down the exposure to "0" and "painted" black. Does it work? Please comments would be appreciated.
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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Very good indeed, excellent in fact.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    The background is excellent and the vignette gives it an artistic look. However it would be nice to see how the background looks without vignette.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Looks very good, Louise. A piece of black mat board or foam core can sometimes be used to save yourself some PP time.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Here is the before picture Haseeb.Black background in Lightroom4.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    "Looks very good, Louise. A piece of black mat board or foam core can sometimes be used to save yourself some PP time."

    Yes Paul, a technique I use as well, like in this case where a sunflower grows next to my patio. It is a single flower and it was easy to put a large black cardboard behind the plant. Some other times when the flowers grow in large number together, it gets more difficult to isolate them without damaging the others.
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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4. White Orchids.

    Following Donald's links to creativity readings, I am exploring Post Processing, one baby step at a time.
    So here is the first picture of my orchid plant on black bacground.
    Black background in Lightroom4.

    And here is the same picture after darkening the bits of stem that were too apparent.I do like the way the petals sparkled when view in lightboox. Do you think the change is background is noticible?Black background in Lightroom4.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4. White Orchids.

    Quote Originally Posted by wlou View Post
    I am exploring Post Processing, one baby step at a time.
    Good on you Louise. Go for it. And you're taking the right approach. One step at time and don't try the 'clever stuff' until you begin feeling comfortable with what you're doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by wlou View Post
    Do you think the change is background is noticible?
    Definitely. And the petals are so much more bright and 'alive' in the second one. In the first they're a bit grey and dull.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4. White Orchids.

    Nice work Louise! Your use of the black is very effective in making the subject stand out. It nicely gets rid of the busy background and focuses the viewer's eyes where they should be looking.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4. White Orchids.

    Donald, thank you for you comments. The links you have put up with Alain Briot made me realise that "my own style" will appear on its own after I master a bunch of stuff and then use all that in my own way. Darn, he says it so much better than me.(Landscape Photography naturephotographer.net). Thank you for all the info you so generously give us.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4. White Orchids.

    Thanks Manfred. I wanted to show the inside of the flowers that I find so attractive, not easy with the macro lens. So eliminating the background was my first step.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4. White Orchids.

    The change in background is slightly noticeable but the change in the petal white is quite noticeable.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Very nice.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Thank you John. Haseeb I am glad you can notice the change in the white petal.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Good work Louise.

    I have a black backdrop (dull black cloth) that I haven't used since I discovered the adjustment brush in LR - I frequently use the AB to modify the BG. What I found with the black cloth is that it seldom is pure black because it's hard to keep clean and even dull black will show some reflections. Also, it prevents other options.

    I've resorted to using the AB in LR; the advantage is that I can soften the BG without making it black, and get some options other than black.

    Using the brush with masking on, and no feather (density and flow at 100), I carefully go round the edges of the image I want to keep sharp. Then to save time, turn the masking off, and paint the remainder of the frame. In area where the edge isn't really sharp, some Feather is useful.

    For a black BG, sometimes a duplicate brush is required to get everything totally black.

    For a softened BG (defocused) set Contrast, Highlight, Clarity to -100, Shadow to +100. Don't set Sharpness below -35 or so or nasty things will happen with the Gaussian sharpening (so I've been told).

    Quite a few of the flower pics linked to below use the AB to defocus/soften the BG (Spanish Lavender, Lavender, and Iris come to mind).

    Glenn

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Hello Glenn. Your advice is very usefull and I have an example here of how I made use of the settings you suggested.
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    After.I did a little fixing of blemishes, I have left some. I wanted to show how papery thin the petals were, they are not perfect in nature anyway. The water drops that dryed already left round spots too. Comments welcome.
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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn NK View Post
    Good work Louise.

    I have a black backdrop (dull black cloth) that I haven't used since I discovered the adjustment brush in LR - I frequently use the AB to modify the BG. What I found with the black cloth is that it seldom is pure black because it's hard to keep clean and even dull black will show some reflections. Also, it prevents other options.

    I've resorted to using the AB in LR; the advantage is that I can soften the BG without making it black, and get some options other than black.

    Using the brush with masking on, and no feather (density and flow at 100), I carefully go round the edges of the image I want to keep sharp. Then to save time, turn the masking off, and paint the remainder of the frame. In area where the edge isn't really sharp, some Feather is useful.

    For a black BG, sometimes a duplicate brush is required to get everything totally black.

    For a softened BG (defocused) set Contrast, Highlight, Clarity to -100, Shadow to +100. Don't set Sharpness below -35 or so or nasty things will happen with the Gaussian sharpening (so I've been told).

    Quite a few of the flower pics linked to below use the AB to defocus/soften the BG (Spanish Lavender, Lavender, and Iris come to mind).

    Glenn
    Glenn you have superb pictures, thank you for sharing.

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    Re: Black background in Lightroom4.

    Isolating the subject is sooooo effective! Nicely done. Lifting the white is much like snow or wedding scenes where it is possible to bring up the whites in a way the camera cannot 'see'.

    Keep them coming, Louise.

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