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    Too green, too red, screem.

    HDR of two images, it was moving and maybe I'll end up just doing the middle image, is it me or is it too green?

    Too green, too red, screem.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Does not look to green on my monitor but the red saturation looks a little bit on the high side.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Nice use of HDR. The greens aren't too much to my eye, but maybe the red and yellow would benefit from a small reduction. Looking further, I suspect you are right- the dynamic range of the mid-image will probably suffice, and the increased shadowing might even give it a little extra richness.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Cheers Paul

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Yes Kevin, I've gone to the trouble to do four versions of the LDR. The train in the lower numbered images is actually travelling in reverse would you believe. Its exposure wasn't banged up to the right but although it was full of noise, it is a few inches closer.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    1) LDR

    Too green, too red, screem.

    2) LDR Orton

    Too green, too red, screem.

    3) LDR with exposure banged to the right

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    4) LDR Orton

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Version 2 for me I prefer both the tonal range and the cropping.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Quote Originally Posted by pnodrog View Post
    Version 2 for me I prefer both the tonal range and the cropping.
    Agreed. And it certainly improved the greens in the foliage.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Cheers Paul the cropping had to be thirds.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Much easier to control the LDR kevin. Cheers.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    I think the original is bordering on Yuk and while the train looks good the green bank competes with it and if toned back with a selection which leaves the loco as is it looks altogether much much better. The four in #6 look wishy washy to me. Not sure why on earth you are playing with HDR for an ordinary photo like this without extremes of tone and nothing which couldn't be adjusted in editing of a single file.

    Funny thing about railway photographers they seem to concentrate on the loco to the exclusion of the train.

    Note .. my other avatar shows me holding a steam loco and is headed 'Train Nut' while a third I'm holding a boat etc
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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Too much time waiting jcuknz, an hour passes between trains and I thought it might work considering they move very slowly. However the problem is that train bits are black and in shadows, this causes a lack of definition and noise even exposed to the right. I'll have another go at the HDR.


    Update; the HDR is no go but I tone mapped a single image selecting train and grass separately using a mask.

    Too green, too red, screem.

    It took a couple of hours though.
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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    A couple of hours well spent. I like it. It reminds me of my train spotting days.

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    Re: Too green, too red, screem.

    Cheers Brian I think it is the better one, it was exposed to the right you see, I had hours to fix the exposure for this one and minutes for the first. If the histogram stops just short of the right hand side on camera display, it is underexposed. It can be corrected but where you compensate with fill light you get noise, and my noise reduction basically softens the entire image.

    It is Tone mapped with Topaz detail 3, after using a deconvolution program Topaz Infocus on automatic settings. The foliage on the mask sharpened mostly small with a lot of contrast and messing about with colour, the train with large sharpening.

    In fact I think Topaz Detail 3 is my most useful program.

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