I prefer the top, non-cropped image
I prefer the second, cropped image
Yet another brilliant shot; I see a trail is that a star and how did you get the boat to stay still?
I have voted. But, to be honest, we're splitting hairs.
You've put many images up here that we've all admired (and envied). But for me, this caps them all. This is stunning.
Apart from 'stunning', I think a 'WOW' is the only way I can describe this photograph.
A tough choice here.I like them both,but voted for #1.It presents a slightly different mood for me than the cropped version.Another truely outstanding photo.
Nice one Colin,
Both great versions, at first I kind of preferred the second cropped version as it gave more detail and emphasis on the jetty but on second look I voted for the first (if that makes sense). I like the star/planet trails too - Venus?
Both are winners though - (thats what I want my stable tripod for).
And I feel your pain on the sandflies!
what a stunning shot (as always). You keep amazing me with the constant quality of your work. It shows me how much there's for me to learn .
But how do you always get your exposures so correct? Do you calculate it somehow or just out of experience?
Thanks for the kind words
I use a few techniques to get the exposure right, depending on the circumstance ...
- A light meter, but it's tricky when I'm using a variable ND filter as there's no way of knowing how much compensation to dial into the meter (it doesn't know I'm using a filter) (and in camera metering doesn't go past 30 seconds, unless I up the ISO and or aperture and work backwards).
- As per above, you can up the ISO or open the aperture - get a reading - and then double the exposure for every stop you close the aperture of 1/2 the ISO.
- Histogram - it basically shows a 5-Stop range, so if it stops 2 stops short of the right then it gives a good indication of how far I need to shift the exposure (also useful in conjunction with above).
There's quite a lot of lattitude with long exposures (ie if a 16 minute exposure is needed then - say - 12 to 20 minutes wouldn't make a lot of difference when shooting RAW).
The hardest thing is allowing for changing light (it can change a lot with a sunset over a 10 to 20 minute period) - not quite so bad with a moon shot, but clouds were obscuring the moon often as they passed by, so ultimately a fair bit of "good guess / fingers crossed".
Great capture (as usual).
I agree with Arith, you are lucky the boat isn't just a wobbly blur.
However, you disappointed me when you told me how you achieved it, I had visions of multiple flashes and pocket wizards, or painting it with flash light yourself running down the pier in dark clothing.
OK now I have that 'out of my system', I voted for the uncropped version too.
Why? - biggest single factor that may have influenced me is that the water is closer to a third (although I haven't measured it), that and the improved "openess" given by a more wrap around sky that gives the viewer more of a 'being there' feeling.
The boat becomes too important in the cropped - and i strain to see what the outboards are
They're just crummy old Hondas ... of course if they had been Mercurys then I'd have to have used a long lens and zoomed right in!
Personally, I think both versions work "ok", although in my mind it does seem a pity to crop out most of the sky (which is what took all of the hard work).
I'll happily sell either
A wee bit, perhaps. The clouds where whizzing by (so obviously strong winds aloft), but only the occasional breeze on the ground (probably sandfly "burps" from all my blood that they "dined on").I agree with Arith, you are lucky the boat isn't just a wobbly blur.
As great as Speedlites are, if takes more than 4 to expose the coast (takes about 25 minutes at around 20 knots to reach the head of the lake) (although it seems like a LOT more when the kids are nagging "are we there yet?" My 2nd Elinchrom Style RX1200 arrives next week - that might be a different story though! (thinking about it - in the bay that you can see I literally COULD have whizzed around it in my boat in the time of the exposure and hit it (repeatedly) with a couple of 1200 WS strobes from a portable generator!However, you disappointed me when you told me how you achieved it, I had visions of multiple flashes and pocket wizards, or painting it with flash light yourself running down the pier in dark clothing.
Yes - but - with the cropped version the boat is 1/3 in from the right-hand sideOK now I have that 'out of my system', I voted for the uncropped version too.
Why? - biggest single factor that may have influenced me is that the water is closer to a third
Last edited by Colin Southern; 2nd December 2009 at 11:26 AM.
We can ALL say that my friend!good thing you only see the ones that worked
So, is that your boat?in the bay that you can see I literally COULD have whizzed around it in my boat in the time of the exposure
Traded one light twin for another, eh?
That's as may be, but with the two 'arrow heads' formed of the hills and their reflections pointing at it, it looks fine in the middleYes - but - with the cropped version the boat is 1/3 in from the right-hand side
No - that's the lake's water taxi (although I suspect that they'd make a lot more money selling insect repellant!).
I think my next boat will be a yacht - I like the idea of doing a solo around the world expedition! (Go Jessica!)