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    Sunset before and after

    I'm a sucker for sunsets. Here is one from the Thousand Islands area across the St. Lawrence River.

    Just to see what is preferred I put up the original and a couple edited versions using LR4.

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    Sunset before and after

    Edit 1 lowering highlights and blacks and adding presence:
    Sunset before and after

    Edit 2 lowering highlights and blacks and adding red and orange in the HSL panel:
    Sunset before and after

    Which do you prefer?

    Or... Edit it to your preferences, put it up, and tell me what you did.

    Thanks for any and all input!

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    I like the first edit, the colors and overall appearance is better.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Susan,
    I like very much the composition. The foliage creates a sort of natural vignetting...

    Edit 1 looks better to me, in edit 2 I see a bit too much magenta on the water

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    I like your picture very much.

    Sunset before and after

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Susan, I had to have a little play as well and while I also use LR4 I will post just what I did. My taste goes just to the darker side on some images and this one was no exception. I realise it won't be for everyone. It is just one more way to see the same image.

    Temp +2, tint -6, exposure -.30, contrast +6, whites -16, blacks -6, clearity +12, vibrance +36, saturation +4

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    Saturation.....red +8, yellow +6
    Luminance....Red -23, orange -19, yellow -36, purple -4

    Post crop Vignetting -10

    And to finish...a 16x9 crop losing a tiny bit of the left side and much of the bottom.

    Sunset before and after

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Hi, Susan

    It's a very nice sunset but falls short of being oustanding due to the lack of a strong and interesting compositional main element.

    Yov have the sky and water in about equal proportion which may lessen the impact a bit, and the sun is in the exact center of the bulls-eye. It might be a little more dramatic with a crop off the top or bottom and whichever side you choose.

    I personally prefer a little less magenta and keeping the highlights down to subdue the water reflection and make the clouds a little more dramatic. It's a low light shot with a fair amount of noise, so any attempt at bringing up the shadows is going to magnify the noise there, as Mike's edit demonstrates in the darker portion of the sky.

    Good job, hope this helps a smidge

    Kevin

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Quote Originally Posted by easternlight View Post
    I like the first edit, the colors and overall appearance is better.
    Quote Originally Posted by GiacomoD View Post
    Susan,
    I like very much the composition. The foliage creates a sort of natural vignetting...

    Edit 1 looks better to me, in edit 2 I see a bit too much magenta on the water
    Thanks Koos and Giacomo - I also prefer that one. It seems more real to me. That's one thing I'm trying to do - edit so it looks more natural and like the original image to my eye.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    My first thought was to reduce the amount of water; then I saw that Paul had done virtually the same thing.

    A similar edit but with lighter shadows would be another option which could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splashy View Post
    I like your picture very much.

    {Image removed for space}

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    Thanks Mike - I'm glad you like it. It's interesting to see what you did.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Quote Originally Posted by jeeperman View Post
    Susan, I had to have a little play as well and while I also use LR4 I will post just what I did. My taste goes just to the darker side on some images and this one was no exception. I realise it won't be for everyone. It is just one more way to see the same image.

    Temp +2, tint -6, exposure -.30, contrast +6, whites -16, blacks -6, clearity +12, vibrance +36, saturation +4

    color panel
    Saturation.....red +8, yellow +6
    Luminance....Red -23, orange -19, yellow -36, purple -4

    Post crop Vignetting -10

    And to finish...a 16x9 crop losing a tiny bit of the left side and much of the bottom.

    {Image removed for space}
    Thanks very much Paul - I really like your crop and I too lean towards the dark look. Thanks for including your edits! I admit I tend to keep the same aspect ratio when I do crop - I have to learn to loosen up.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    No worries, Susan. Geoff was right about a little shadow recovery helping. I was trying to avoid added noise but recovering shadows about +34 and using some noise reduction about 22 on both luminance and color works well.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Thanks a lot Kevin and Geoff for giving your critiques. They make a lot of sense and I'm learning a lot from you.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    A comment from a lower level of expertise, for what it is worth. For me in edit 1 there is a far more pleasing range of hues on the water. In edit 2 they seem somewhat compressed into a less discriminatory range giving a 'flatter' effect.
    Normally I would agree with the comment that there was too much water on show. However, in this case I believe the obverse is true. In Edit 1 there is a most attractive subtle play of light in the shape of a cross which caught my eye as a focal point and drew it into the picture. Without this I do feel that your capture could have lost much of its dramatic drawing power and been just another 'nice' sunset.
    This has nothing to do with me being some sort of religious fanatic looking for hidden mystical apparitions. Just a very pleasing light effect you have captured. This effect is not nearly as evident after cropping. Just an opinion anyway. Nice sunset capture.
    Last edited by ucci; 26th January 2013 at 09:40 PM.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Hi Susan,
    No.1 is the best IMO.

    Cheers
    John

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Here is a new version with some cropping to get the horizon out of the center, but keeping the cross/arrow on the water, and using some of the editing technique given by Paul:

    Sunset before and after

    Thanks to all who gave advice - I learned new things about LR and composition.

    Cheers!

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    I would go for the slightly darker look that Paul has done. The bright water surface is a bit too bright. I do like the framing with the trees

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    Thanks Trevor - I actually do have one of those too with the new crop:

    Sunset before and after

    I gotta say I love Lightroom...

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    I like this last one best Susan,

    Cheers,

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    I think the last one is by far the best. Spot on.

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    Re: Sunset before and after

    I would agree, the last is the top of the bunch for sure. Well done.

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