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    Another bird...

    Can't compete with Joe, but here's a lilac breasted roller. Too bad the eye is just black, really. Nice birds, I think. C&C welcome as always

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    A great shot Dave. I saw one of those birds in the Washington Dc Zoo. My attempt was terrible. I like the vignette, you created ?
    I guess if we were "competing' with Joe A lot of us would not even post a bird.... I would, it would just fail miserably lol.
    Once again Great shot!

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    That is a really pretty bird. Well photographed and processed too.

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    Re: Another bird...

    For me, Dave, the bird is too far to the right, and looking out of the picture. If it was facing the other way it would look better.

    So, personally speaking, I would crop a little from the left side and top. Possibly a mix of crop and clone from the left side leaves.

    And I would do away with the vignette to look completely natural. This shot is good enough without it.

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    Re: Another bird...

    Nice shot Dave,

    I can see why you didn't crop the left off - there are tail feathers to include and while there is a crop to be had (and I know what Geoff means), it would remove one of the birds defining features.

    This is one of those times where a 'looking over its shoulder' pose would be better - if only you could make it do that - when presented with this situation, I'll wait until it does that - or more usually just flies off.

    I would be tempted to cheat on the eye, there is a pixel sized highlight on the top eye lid that might be cloned to a better place.

    HTH,

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    Re: Another bird...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Humphries View Post
    Nice shot Dave,

    I can see why you didn't crop the left off - there are tail feathers to include and while there is a crop to be had (and I know what Geoff means), it would remove one of the birds defining features.

    This is one of those times where a 'looking over its shoulder' pose would be better - if only you could make it do that - when presented with this situation, I'll wait until it does that - or more usually just flies off.

    I would be tempted to cheat on the eye, there is a pixel sized highlight on the top eye lid that might be cloned to a better place.

    HTH,
    I know what you mean, i saw a lilac brested roller bird for just a few seconds, it wasnt until later when i looked at the photo that i realised how pretty they are. Here is the one i saw.

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    Re: Another bird...

    Very pretty little bird indeed. I find composition can be tough with long tailfeathered birds....although that is part of what makes them fun, right?
    Dave's over the shoulder pose idea is a good one, but you must pay the model a little extra. This posing challenge with birds is at least part of why I am driven to chase them myself. Well done and keep at it.

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    Re: Another bird...

    Thanks for all the feedback.

    I can see why you didn't crop the left off - there are tail feathers to include and while there is a crop to be had (and I know what Geoff means), it would remove one of the birds defining features.
    Yes, spot on Dave, that is why I cropped as I did. One of the (many) things that I have learned on CiC is that there can be a real dilemma with wildlife photography. The wild life enthusiasts who photograph (which if I'm honest is where I would put myself) want to see the animal presented in its environment, the "real" photographer will focus more on the composition and image quality. Sometimes it's possible to get both right, but probably not always.

    'looking over its shoulder'
    Yes, right again. This bird rarely does that, and never when it's in front of my lens. When it takes off, it also flies down at first, it's a fairly chunky bird, and it's very difficult to get a good shot of its fabulous iridescent turquoise wings - but I'll do it one day

    To vignette of not? Obviously down to personal taste, but I suppose maybe a good motto is "if in doubt, leave it out" but I will keep experimenting.

    I would be tempted to cheat on the eye, there is a pixel sized highlight on the top eye lid that might be cloned to a better place.
    Get thee behind me, Satan!

    Cheers,

    Dave
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    Re: Another bird...

    I saw one of those birds in the Washington Dc Zoo
    As it happened, I was on a photography course at Chester Zoo just after coming back from the trip where I saw the bird. As usual this summer, it was raining, and there was this poor wet thing huddled on a tree.

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