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    deleting XMP files

    I just finished deleting about 150 photos from inside LR4.
    Some of them had adjustments resulting in the sidecar file.
    After I deleted the photos (Remove from disk) I found that the sidecar files are still there.
    Is there a way in LR that deletes the xmp file together with the actual NEF file, or do I have to delete these files manually?
    Which is a big PIA!

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Kristianna-Marie:

    I've never had any trouble deleting XMP files.

    I highlight the photo(s), right click, and choose DELETE FILE(S).

    Disclaimer - I'm using Canon - maybe the Nikon XMP are handled differently.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    On a side not, why not just convert the files to DNG format so the image and adjustments are always kept in the same file?

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    I take it you mean converting to Dng from the original Raw files before any editing, Colin.

    Something I keep experimenting with but have found a few slight drawbacks. The conversion time is a little longer. Around 10 minutes for 100 images in my case.

    And I have occasionally had some corrupted files during the Dng conversion. But they worked OK when using the 'normal' conversion method.

    Probably just a glitch with my computer though. I have more RAM on order.

    One advantage with Dng is quite a saving on file size; and no xmp files to worry about, as you say.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Southern View Post
    On a side not, why not just convert the files to DNG format so the image and adjustments are always kept in the same file?
    Hm, something to think about....

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn NK View Post
    Kristianna-Marie:

    I've never had any trouble deleting XMP files.

    I highlight the photo(s), right click, and choose DELETE FILE(S).

    Disclaimer - I'm using Canon - maybe the Nikon XMP are handled differently.

    Glenn
    True - the file gets deleted, but the sidecar file is still there
    I'm not sure if it makes a difference if its a NEF or CR2.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris V View Post
    True - the file gets deleted, but the sidecar file is still there
    I'm not sure if it makes a difference if its a NEF or CR2.
    I don't use LR. However, when I delete, move, copy or rename a NEF using either the operating system or other software apps, the XMP file is automatically affected along with the NEF.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Kris,

    I don't see a "remove from disk." There is "remove" and "delete from disk". I just confirmed that on my computer, "delete from disk" deletes both the cr2 and xmp.

    Dan

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Quote Originally Posted by DanK View Post
    Kris,

    I don't see a "remove from disk." There is "remove" and "delete from disk". I just confirmed that on my computer, "delete from disk" deletes both the cr2 and xmp.

    Dan
    Sorry, you're right - it's delete from disk.
    Regardless - When I checked in Windows explorer, the NEF files were deleted, but the xmp files were still there. So, it might indeed be a Nikon/Canon issue?
    Although, I don't understand why that would make a difference....

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff F View Post
    I take it you mean converting to Dng from the original Raw files before any editing, Colin.

    Something I keep experimenting with but have found a few slight drawbacks. The conversion time is a little longer. Around 10 minutes for 100 images in my case.

    And I have occasionally had some corrupted files during the Dng conversion. But they worked OK when using the 'normal' conversion method.

    Probably just a glitch with my computer though. I have more RAM on order.

    One advantage with Dng is quite a saving on file size; and no xmp files to worry about, as you say.
    Hi Geoff,

    Yes. I use Bridge to suck the images off the card - convert them to DNG - rename them - add metadata - and write them to the PC all in 1 operation. Just did a little test converting 100 images ... 2 minutes & 22 seconds

    Never had any issues with file / image corruption.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    I have been using LR4 for about six weeks so I am just a beginner. LR does not use XMP files to store changes made to a RAW file. The changes are stored in the catalog. LR will only create an XMP if you export the RAW. What I am getting at is, are these XMP files left over from some other photo editing program?

    If you want to find and delete all the XMP files just do a search for ".xmp" (without the quotes) and then you can delete them.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Checking whether xmp files relate to anything current, which you wish to retain, can be a bit tedious unless they are actually placed alongside the relevant Raw file. Which is where dng has an advantage.

    And with regard to the time of downloading dng files. I checked today and it took me 30 minutes to download 70 images from CR2 to Dng. Which is 7 minutes longer than straight Raw.

    Using a reasonable power dual core computer. But with only 2GB Ram; which was once considered to be excessively large!

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    TIf there is enough interest in this I might have a solution for Windows.
    I wrote a small application using a popular freeware called AutoIt to help me delete the raw files left on the disk after I deleted the JPG.
    I am viewing the JPGs using the default Windows program and I am making my primary selection there - if the jpg is bad enough I just delete it straight away and that leaves as many raw files "orphans".

    What my app is doing so far, it checks the files in a folder of your choice for image pairs (jpg and raw) and if it finds raw files without matching jpg, then it either move those raw files to a new folder, or simply deletes them based on user choice.

    It won't be hard for me to add a more flexible pair structure (raw and xmp or whatever combination) so I will wait for feedback.
    I'l go into more details if requested.

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    Re: deleting XMP files

    Quote Originally Posted by enaiman View Post
    TIf there is enough interest in this I might have a solution for Windows.
    I wrote a small application using a popular freeware called AutoIt to help me delete the raw files left on the disk after I deleted the JPG.
    I am viewing the JPGs using the default Windows program and I am making my primary selection there - if the jpg is bad enough I just delete it straight away and that leaves as many raw files "orphans".

    What my app is doing so far, it checks the files in a folder of your choice for image pairs (jpg and raw) and if it finds raw files without matching jpg, then it either move those raw files to a new folder, or simply deletes them based on user choice.

    It won't be hard for me to add a more flexible pair structure (raw and xmp or whatever combination) so I will wait for feedback.
    I'l go into more details if requested.
    I've never had a problem removing xmp files with Windows Explorer. If I am working in either View NX2 or ACR and don't like where things have gone, I'll close the file and delete the associated xmp file and when I open up the file to eidt ACR and NX2 will create a new sidecar file for me to work with. I find this to be a fairly fast thing to do as a reset.

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