Ronny - They look over-sharpened (frosty) to me. I wonder if you've pushed it just a bit too much in post-processing in trying to bring out the water droplets?
Otherwise I like the idea and the execution very much.
You shot these at iso 400 and 500, I then guess you sharpened them at full size and uploaded them, again at fullsize to TinyPic, where they got reduced to 1599px on longest side. This has given us lots of noise when viewed at 100% in Lytebox and yet the softness too.
A better PP workflow could make these look much better (if a bit smaller) here at CiC.
After any cropping, but before any sharpening, down size each to be no more than 1000 px tall, or 1600 px wide.
Then sharpen with UnSharp Mask (USM) at say, 100% amount, 0.3 px radius and threshold of 1 or 2.
Then Save (as a different filename) as jpg at a quality of 75-80%, or 9 out of 12 and upload that to TinyPic.
If you had to crop significantly, you may need to downsize more, I rarely downsize less than 2:1, more if I can, as this helps reduce noise and effectively improves DoF/any focusing errors. In other words, if you cropped to say 3,000 px on width, downsize by 50%, or to 1500 px.
Send me a mediafire link to a RAW file of either of the first two and I'll show you what I mean.
Hope that helps,
e-mail received from Ronny;
Hi Ronny,Originally Posted by Ronny
I hope you don't mind me posting these questions here, it is very difficult to reply to an e-mail away from CiC when everything I need is here.
OK, let's take these one at a time ...
Ah, OK, I was assuming you had shot these RAW, as most Canon 40D users do shoot RAW, my mistake.First my pictures are jpeg. I have no experience with raw.
It is, by far, more preferable when you need to do Post Processing (PP) to images like this and will reduce visible noise (the sharp graininess) in your pictures. It is therefore something you may wish to learn how to use in future to get better quality.
OK, so you are downsizing, but still to a size that is a bad choice for TinyPic, I would suggest you downsize from 3888x2592 to 1600 x 1066, sharpen at the settings I suggested and Upload that.The picture size is originally 3888x2592 and I down size them nearly always to 1800x1200
I can send you at either size and both in jpeg only.
Because those values will work best!I try ~ why treshold 2 and radius 0.3
the threshold of 2 is because the image may still be quite noisy, in fact if you only have a jpg original, it may need to be somewhat higher still, say 6 to avoid sharpening the noise.
the radius of 0.3 px because anything larger may show as visible halos around the edges of some drops or the highlights within the drops.
It is a free file hosting/sharing service that is fairly simple to use (no sign up was required) and allows a large file to be deposited (by you) and you then send me (by PM, not e-mail please) the hyperlink this creates, or post it in a reply here, and I then later can collect it by clicking on that link and downloading it (as can everyone else who knows the link).What do you understand by mediafire link?
However, when I went to use it to try to write some instructions for you, it looked different to the last time I used it and after clicking some links I got a warning of the URL being a malicious site associated with phishing, so I guess we'd better not go there.
I think therefore the best advice I can give is for you to have a read of the tutorial here on RAW processing and start using that for better quality images. The screen shots shown are from ACR (Adobe Camera RAW) which is available in Photoshop CS, Elements and Lightroom - which PP software do you have, any of those?
Meanwhile, thank for the willingness to advise.
Last edited by Dave Humphries; 10th May 2012 at 10:23 PM. Reason: separated quotes from replies