Nice capture! To be honest, I kinda like SOOC better! If it was cropped a little tighter on the upright edges - maybe 8x10 perhaps? I just think the colours give it a very Mediterranean feel, where the B+W is a little bit more urban-esque? Now I'm just rambling, and making up words....
I think you have to lose the grille, Mark, as your B&W crop did; but there is so much good colour possibilities there that I would keep the colour version and actually increase the brightness slightly to make it more Mediterranean looking.
Hi Mark, have you considered losing the guy on the left that's getting his Driver ID photo taken? Just for chuckles 'n grins, try croping to get the three on the right and loosing the grille and the guy on the left.
For what it's worth, I prefer Andrew's version. I think the guy watching the photog is an interesting element.
How about a crop of the left three?
Three is often a better number compositionally:
Yes, the guy looking at camera grabs the attention,
but then you look to see who the guy in the middle is looking at
and then you see the guy in despair (or hiding?)
oh, and lose the grille, of course.
Colour is better, somewhere between Andrew's and Viana's
Hi all, so much advice, thanks! i agree the grill has to go but although i have PS ive yet to climb the mountain that is the learning curve! ive posted the 3 edits and we can have our own mini comp and the best thing is my image will win !
I like the crop size on this one it works best long and narrow.
Not sure i like this one theres no focal point to the image and it loses the men giving advice idea
This one works good balance and focal point with both outer men apparently giving advice to the central man in distress.
so what do you think?
Hi Mark, when I look at the second image, there seems to be two 'events' occurring. The guy on the left is interacting with the photographer and the other two are interacting with each other. It feels like there are two subjects as a result. The same applies to the original image. Also in the 3rd image, the guy on the right is talking and the other two are listening. That give and take element is missing in the 2nd image. I'd vote for the third as I feel it tells a single story.
Frank makes a good point that choosing one as better than the others you kind of have to pick what story you want to tell. So is the story only the two men giving advice and the third guy listening, or is the story that moment in time on that bench, where all 4 men contribute.
As far as the number of elements in a photo, I don't think you have to have three people to have three elements. The guy on the left is one, the guy covering his face is one, and the TWO guys looking at him can be ONE. Both men looking at the other is a stronger element than just one looking at him (in this case, in my opinion).
Thanks All, #3 it is with some more PP will have a go at "grunging up" Viana just got shiny new cs5.5 to learn and a how to book but still got loads to learn in LR as well which program do i use to do the grunge Viana?
The spending on essentials is never ending, fortunately i managed to get the educational discount so that helps. Hows the tripod purchase going?
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I am just about to drop a bundle on my very own, “shiny,” new CS 5 plus LR 3 and few other essentials for my photo/design obsession.
Oh, well—so glad that you asked. . . lol
I have had no time to research the project because of work, the holidays, some personal notable days and the fact that my husband wants a new stereo. First things first. But, I really appreciate all of the advice. I only want to do this once and promise to get to it ASAP.
I'm a bit late coming in on this but the image has a lot of potential IMO and I couldn't resist adding my two bob's worth.
I actually like the crop in post 3 and the colours in post 9, if that makes sense. I think that the closer crops lose a bit of context and tend to look like men "lined up against a wall".
Anyway, it's definitely one for your portfolio, whichever way you go with it.
Definitely the RH three.
Great discussion BTW, helped me realise why I liked the RH3.
For a title, how about Bracketed By Onion Breath!
David what about the grill? does it not wind you up?I actually like the crop in post 3 and the colours in post 9, if that makes sense. I think that the closer crops lose a bit of context and tend to look like men "lined up against a wall".
Like itFor a title, how about Bracketed By Onion Breath!
I prefer Mark's simple B&W crop as is. Tells a simple story of men having a good conversation.