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    Crows for C&C

    Let me know what you think of this shot....

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Very nice. Well balanced, interesting and good tonal range.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Crows look a tad oversharpened (they have significant halos around them). I'd cut off the rail post as it doesn't do anything for either the impact of the story or the framing. Just noticed you saved this as a grayscale image. It is really best to leave all B&W's in RGB for the best tonal range.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    I agree the crop works much better.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    I think you guys have already sorted this one out. I agree that the crop works much better.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Thanks Gents! I agree with the crop and I do over sharpen.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by epmi314 View Post
    Thanks Gents! I agree with the crop and I do over sharpen.
    Hi Scott, I've had the same issues with sharpening and have found the following guidelines to be helpful as a starting point.

    Unsharp Mask Starter Settings:
    Capture Sharpening – Amount, 300%; Radius, 0.3 pixels; Threshold, 0
    Artistic (or Creative) Sharpening – Amount, 40%, Radius, 4 pixels, Threshold, 0
    Output Sharpening – Amount, 50-120%; Radius, 0.3 pixels; Threshold, usually less than 3 but not over 9

    I say as a starting point because a lot depends on variables like image resolution and detail. When I look at the preview, if I see any halos, typically at the border of high contrast areas, I back off the Radius until the halos go away. You will also want to look for any noise increase that is objectionable. It is better to use less sharpening than to make image sharpening noticeable.

    There are a number of techniques available to sharpen images. These settings are just for using the basic Unsharp Mask. I hope this helps!

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Thanks a bunch Frank your post is very imformational. It's good to have a baseline to start with as I have tendency to just fiddle with the images. I completely missed the halos which would have been an obvious indication of a PP issue.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by epmi314 View Post
    ~ and I do over sharpen.
    Stop it !!!!!!!

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Am I the only one who prefers this photograph without the crop? I like the post as a counterpart for the crows. It balances the composition. In the crop version the position of the crows looks odd.
    Though maybe you could darken the post a bit to get some of the attention off it.

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Quote Originally Posted by JK6065 View Post
    Am I the only one who prefers this photograph without the crop? I like the post as a counterpart for the crows. It balances the composition. In the crop version the position of the crows looks odd.
    Though maybe you could darken the post a bit to get some of the attention off it.
    No, I tend to agree with you Jeroen.

    If it was a shot of crows it should have been much tighter on them.

    ... but if the thread had been titled "Two crows on a fence" everyone would have been happy

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    Scott, other than the slight over sharpening (which you have already been soundly
    thrashed for..), I honestly preferred it in the uncropped version.

    In my experience unless crows are sleeping, they are undoubtedly involved in one of
    two endeavors:

    A) They are messing about with something they shouldn't be (ie: eating the farmers
    corn, harassing other critters, chasing hawks around the sky, etc.)

    B) They are getting ready to mess about with something they shouldn't be.

    Those two you captured are clearly involved in some level of collusion, planning their
    next mischievous foray ....they even look guilty..

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    @Frank

    Thanks for the sharpening info!!!

    As for the picture, I vote for the uncropped version

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    Re: Crows for C&C

    I love crow shots. I see them as wise old birds. LIke most people envision owls I suspect. Heres one I took 2 days ago.Crows for C&C thought I would share it.

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